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Post by redrex1 on Sept 2, 2018 9:29:47 GMT -6
Sounds like the Dem Agenda
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Post by principledcon on Sept 2, 2018 9:30:52 GMT -6
Hehe..... Almost wish that would happen so we could purge all the anti-Americans once and for all...
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Post by soonernvolved on Sept 3, 2018 20:25:56 GMT -6
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Post by Boots on Sept 3, 2018 21:25:48 GMT -6
Hehe..... Any further 2nd Amendment discussion has now been concluded.
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Post by jimmy on Sept 3, 2018 21:37:52 GMT -6
Hehe..... Hehe......
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Post by Boots on Sept 4, 2018 17:04:16 GMT -6
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Post by soonernvolved on Sept 4, 2018 17:28:57 GMT -6
For the lazy:
MAN (off camera): “When y’all gonna impeach Trump?”
SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER: “Sooner the better.”
MAN: “‘Sooner the better?’ That’s not answering the question.”
SCHUMER: “Gotta get a few Republicans [inaudible].
WOMAN (off camera): “We’re trying. We’re voting.”
SCHUMER: “We’re Democrats. We’re on your side.”
WOMAN: “So am I.
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Post by soonernvolved on Sept 5, 2018 0:11:11 GMT -6
www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/04/another-democrat-falls-to-leftist-resistance-incumbent-rep-michael-capuano-loses-primary-to-ocasio-cortez-backed-ayanna-pressley/amp/Longtime incumbent Democratic Rep. Michael Capuano (D-MA) lost his primary on Tuesday to anti-establishment insurgent Ayanna Pressley in the latest of a series of powerful incumbents to lose to grassroots-fueled outsiders. Capuano conceded the election early after returns started flowing in, a sign of how badly Pressley defeated him. This win for the hard-left of the Democratic Party against its own establishment comes in the wake of devout socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s stunning upset win over Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-NY) in New York earlier this summer, a shocker that rocket-fueled the leftist wing of the Democratic Party in a year where establishment incumbents are having a hard time winning re-election. A glowing profile of Pressley in the New York Times published with a Cambridge dateline just a few days before the primary on Tuesday reveals just how unusual she is: It’s not a sight you see every day, certainly not around Boston — a black woman mounting a plausible challenge to a 10-term white congressman from her own party, a politician with vast connections who votes the progressive line and opposes everything Trump. But here was Ayanna Pressley, a Boston City Council member and rising Democratic star, exhorting volunteers in a Cambridge restaurant with an impassioned performance style she learned as a child at her grandfather’s storefront Baptist church in Chicago. The piece goes on to quote her about how she plans to lay out a leftist agenda, and not just provide “resisting and affronting” to President Donald Trump. “This is not just about resisting and affronting Trump,” Pressley said, per the Times. “Because the systemic inequalities and disparities that I’m talking about existed long before that man occupied the White House!” Pressley is backed by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the leftist socialist who defeated Crowley in New York on a message of pushing to “Abolish ICE.” Pressley herself also backs abolishing the federal agency that handles immigration enforcement, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)–and other pillars of a socialist agenda like “Medicare for all” and widespread gun control: Ayanna Pressley ✔ @ayannapressley The times require and our district deserves bold activist leadership. A champion who will fight for: ✅Medicare for all ✅Abolishing ICE ✅Ending the gun violence epidemic ✅Eliminating the cash bail system ✅Women’s bodily autonomy ✅Justice#changecantwait 3:11 PM - Sep 3, 2018 · Boston, MA 973 342 people are talking about this Joel B. Pollak ✔ @joelpollak Also, @ayannapressley opposed a bill to protect police officers from assault, which @mikecapuano voted for: www.boston.com/news/politics/2018/08/22/michael-capuano-ayanna-pressley-policy-differences …
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Post by oilsooner on Sept 5, 2018 8:57:08 GMT -6
www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/04/another-democrat-falls-to-leftist-resistance-incumbent-rep-michael-capuano-loses-primary-to-ocasio-cortez-backed-ayanna-pressley/amp/Longtime incumbent Democratic Rep. Michael Capuano (D-MA) lost his primary on Tuesday to anti-establishment insurgent Ayanna Pressley in the latest of a series of powerful incumbents to lose to grassroots-fueled outsiders. Capuano conceded the election early after returns started flowing in, a sign of how badly Pressley defeated him. This win for the hard-left of the Democratic Party against its own establishment comes in the wake of devout socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s stunning upset win over Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-NY) in New York earlier this summer, a shocker that rocket-fueled the leftist wing of the Democratic Party in a year where establishment incumbents are having a hard time winning re-election. A glowing profile of Pressley in the New York Times published with a Cambridge dateline just a few days before the primary on Tuesday reveals just how unusual she is: It’s not a sight you see every day, certainly not around Boston — a black woman mounting a plausible challenge to a 10-term white congressman from her own party, a politician with vast connections who votes the progressive line and opposes everything Trump. But here was Ayanna Pressley, a Boston City Council member and rising Democratic star, exhorting volunteers in a Cambridge restaurant with an impassioned performance style she learned as a child at her grandfather’s storefront Baptist church in Chicago. The piece goes on to quote her about how she plans to lay out a leftist agenda, and not just provide “resisting and affronting” to President Donald Trump. “This is not just about resisting and affronting Trump,” Pressley said, per the Times. “Because the systemic inequalities and disparities that I’m talking about existed long before that man occupied the White House!” Pressley is backed by Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the leftist socialist who defeated Crowley in New York on a message of pushing to “Abolish ICE.” Pressley herself also backs abolishing the federal agency that handles immigration enforcement, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE)–and other pillars of a socialist agenda like “Medicare for all” and widespread gun control: Ayanna Pressley ✔ @ayannapressley The times require and our district deserves bold activist leadership. A champion who will fight for: ✅Medicare for all ✅Abolishing ICE ✅Ending the gun violence epidemic ✅Eliminating the cash bail system ✅Women’s bodily autonomy ✅Justice#changecantwait 3:11 PM - Sep 3, 2018 · Boston, MA 973 342 people are talking about this Joel B. Pollak ✔ @joelpollak Also, @ayannapressley opposed a bill to protect police officers from assault, which @mikecapuano voted for: www.boston.com/news/politics/2018/08/22/michael-capuano-ayanna-pressley-policy-differences … lol...opposed a bill to protect police officers from assault. these fuckin people.....lolol
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Post by soonernvolved on Sept 5, 2018 22:00:01 GMT -6
The RNC released a new ad:
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Post by sooner8th on Sept 5, 2018 22:07:50 GMT -6
The RNC released a new ad: You people pulled this same shit in '10 and LOVED it. Cheered them on. Now cowardly republicans won't have town hall meeting like they demanded democrats have in '10. Hypocrites.
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Post by soonernvolved on Sept 5, 2018 22:19:29 GMT -6
The RNC released a new ad: You people pulled this same shit in '10 and LOVED it. Cheered them on. Now cowardly republicans won't have town hall meeting like they demanded democrats have in '10. Hypocrites. Independents,(which I am) & Republicans looted, rioted, etc? No? So, just another excuse to try & justify one’s childish temper tantrums because they lost & can’t mentally cope with it.
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Post by soonerbounce13 on Sept 6, 2018 5:11:23 GMT -6
The RNC released a new ad: You people pulled this same shit in '10 and LOVED it. Cheered them on. Now cowardly republicans won't have town hall meeting like they demanded democrats have in '10. Hypocrites. what? At no point did republicans act like this. not even close
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Post by redstripe on Sept 6, 2018 8:44:52 GMT -6
The RNC released a new ad: You people pulled this same shit in '10 and LOVED it. Cheered them on. Now cowardly republicans won't have town hall meeting like they demanded democrats have in '10. Hypocrites.
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Post by soonernvolved on Sept 7, 2018 12:07:42 GMT -6
dailycaller.com/2018/09/06/cynthia-nixon-universal-health-care/Democratic New York gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon hasn’t come up with a plan to fund her campaign promise of health care for all, but she made it known on Wednesday that it is not a deciding factor on whether or not to enact the measure. “Pass it and then figure out how to fund it,” Nixon told The New York Daily News, when asked how to pay for the New York Health Act (NYHA).
The NYHA would institute a statewide universal health care system that could cover all New York state residents, including illegal aliens. While Nixon did not explicitly suggest how to pay for the costly program, she cited a RAND Corporation report that outlined raising various state taxes. A study by the RAND Corporation estimated that tax revenue would need to increase over 150 percent by 2022 in order finance the system.Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum also faced backlash for avoiding explaining how he would fund single-payer health care if elected to governor in November. After a round of questions in CNN’s “State of the Union,” Gillum finally admitted he would need to raise taxes in order for the program to be solvent. Nixon’s gubernatorial challenger and incumbent Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo has also expressed support for a statewide universal health care system. “After redirection of federal and state health care outlays to New York Health (NYH), the additional state tax revenue needed to finance the program in 2022 would be $139 billion, a 156-percent increase over projected total state tax revenue in the status quo,” according to Rand Corporation.
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Post by redstripe on Sept 7, 2018 12:20:29 GMT -6
dailycaller.com/2018/09/06/cynthia-nixon-universal-health-care/Democratic New York gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon hasn’t come up with a plan to fund her campaign promise of health care for all, but she made it known on Wednesday that it is not a deciding factor on whether or not to enact the measure. “Pass it and then figure out how to fund it,” Nixon told The New York Daily News, when asked how to pay for the New York Health Act (NYHA).
The NYHA would institute a statewide universal health care system that could cover all New York state residents, including illegal aliens. While Nixon did not explicitly suggest how to pay for the costly program, she cited a RAND Corporation report that outlined raising various state taxes. A study by the RAND Corporation estimated that tax revenue would need to increase over 150 percent by 2022 in order finance the system.Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum also faced backlash for avoiding explaining how he would fund single-payer health care if elected to governor in November. After a round of questions in CNN’s “State of the Union,” Gillum finally admitted he would need to raise taxes in order for the program to be solvent. Nixon’s gubernatorial challenger and incumbent Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo has also expressed support for a statewide universal health care system. “After redirection of federal and state health care outlays to New York Health (NYH), the additional state tax revenue needed to finance the program in 2022 would be $139 billion, a 156-percent increase over projected total state tax revenue in the status quo,” according to Rand Corporation. “Pass it and then figure out how to fund it,”
Holy shit. and people will vote for this idiot
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Post by sooner8th on Sept 7, 2018 12:20:55 GMT -6
Honest opinions here folks - the outcome of the mid terms?
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Post by sooner8th on Sept 7, 2018 12:28:07 GMT -6
dailycaller.com/2018/09/06/cynthia-nixon-universal-health-care/Democratic New York gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon hasn’t come up with a plan to fund her campaign promise of health care for all, but she made it known on Wednesday that it is not a deciding factor on whether or not to enact the measure. “Pass it and then figure out how to fund it,” Nixon told The New York Daily News, when asked how to pay for the New York Health Act (NYHA).
The NYHA would institute a statewide universal health care system that could cover all New York state residents, including illegal aliens. While Nixon did not explicitly suggest how to pay for the costly program, she cited a RAND Corporation report that outlined raising various state taxes. A study by the RAND Corporation estimated that tax revenue would need to increase over 150 percent by 2022 in order finance the system.Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum also faced backlash for avoiding explaining how he would fund single-payer health care if elected to governor in November. After a round of questions in CNN’s “State of the Union,” Gillum finally admitted he would need to raise taxes in order for the program to be solvent. Nixon’s gubernatorial challenger and incumbent Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo has also expressed support for a statewide universal health care system. “After redirection of federal and state health care outlays to New York Health (NYH), the additional state tax revenue needed to finance the program in 2022 would be $139 billion, a 156-percent increase over projected total state tax revenue in the status quo,” according to Rand Corporation. “Pass it and then figure out how to fund it,”
Holy shit. and people will vote for this idiot As opposed to I don't have to fund tax cuts? OK
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Post by oilsooner on Sept 7, 2018 12:29:34 GMT -6
Honest opinions here folks - the outcome of the mid terms? You go first. You don’t really come off as “honest opinions here guys,” so let’s see what we’re dealing with first. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by redstripe on Sept 7, 2018 12:31:36 GMT -6
“Pass it and then figure out how to fund it,”
Holy shit. and people will vote for this idiot As opposed to I don't have to fund tax cuts? OK I agree what an idiot
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Post by sooner8th on Sept 7, 2018 12:56:02 GMT -6
Honest opinions here folks - the outcome of the mid terms? You go first. You don’t really come off as “honest opinions here guys,” so let’s see what we’re dealing with first. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Dems come up short by 3-4-5 seats in house lose 4-5 senate. cruz wins blackburn wins nelson loses az goes blue the rest of red states with blue dem senators go back to red crazy ass kobach wins in ks ga dem loses Oh then we complain whine and cry but don't do anything concrete to win. We just can't get our shit together on a message. ZERO leadership.
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Post by redstripe on Sept 7, 2018 13:06:49 GMT -6
You go first. You don’t really come off as “honest opinions here guys,” so let’s see what we’re dealing with first. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Dems come up short by 3-4-5 seats in house lose 4-5 senate. cruz wins blackburn wins nelson loses az goes blue the rest of red states with blue dem senators go back to red crazy ass kobach wins in ks ga dem loses Oh then we complain whine and cry but don't do anything concrete to win. We just can't get our shit together on a message. ZERO leadership.
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Post by oilsooner on Sept 7, 2018 13:43:07 GMT -6
You go first. You don’t really come off as “honest opinions here guys,” so let’s see what we’re dealing with first. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Dems come up short by 3-4-5 seats in house lose 4-5 senate. cruz wins blackburn wins nelson loses az goes blue the rest of red states with blue dem senators go back to red crazy ass kobach wins in ks ga dem loses Oh then we complain whine and cry but don't do anything concrete to win. We just can't get our shit together on a message. ZERO leadership. Yeah, I hear all that. Sounds reasonable. I think a few small things change, but mostly things stay the same. What message do you think the Dems should rally around? I think Obama's gonna be working the campaign trail hard for the next few weeks and he's the one guy you have who brings everyone together. And, he was all over Trump today.
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Post by sooner8th on Sept 7, 2018 14:44:13 GMT -6
Dems come up short by 3-4-5 seats in house lose 4-5 senate. cruz wins blackburn wins nelson loses az goes blue the rest of red states with blue dem senators go back to red crazy ass kobach wins in ks ga dem loses Oh then we complain whine and cry but don't do anything concrete to win. We just can't get our shit together on a message. ZERO leadership. Yeah, I hear all that. Sounds reasonable. I think a few small things change, but mostly things stay the same. What message do you think the Dems should rally around? I think Obama's gonna be working the campaign trail hard for the next few weeks and he's the one guy you have who brings everyone together. And, he was all over Trump today. You really want to get me started don't you? We have got to get back to our base - work class and middle class folks. Black, white brown yellow whatever. Our base has always been working and middle class, we just stopped speaking to them about themselves. What do all folks want? Good jobs that have good low cost benefits. Share in the profits they are producing instead of 95% of them going to executive pay and perks, board pay and perks and shareholders. Now most shareholders mean wall street hedge fund managers, they are the true drivers of companies. We need to explain how medicare for all will benefit them by lowering the cost of health care and drugs - if implemented properly. Student loan debt - they need lower rates and lower college costs. Taxes - why do wall street hedge fund managers and investors pay a different rate than everyone else? Income is income. All should pay the same rates. Raise taxes back to Clinton\Obama levels and lets start to cut into these deficits, working towards eliminating the debt so we can have a real tax cut that will drive the economy. Legalize pot. Start to clean out jails for non violent offenders. Explain how sticking up for the rights of minorities and benefits them and does not make their rights superseed your rights. They add to them. We are protecting YOU as we protect minorities. Get the hell out of the middle east and cut defense spending by $300 billion a year. Raise the minimum wage. No more tax credits or offsets or reducing income for moving jobs overseas. No H2B visa's. Crack back on illegals working - meaning if you catch someone working illegally it is on the company and the fine will be huge. Change the company name and do it again - fucking JAIL. UNIONS MORE FUCKING UNIONS. Protect our country from RUSSIA.
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Post by soonernvolved on Sept 7, 2018 14:44:46 GMT -6
Dems come up short by 3-4-5 seats in house lose 4-5 senate. cruz wins blackburn wins nelson loses az goes blue the rest of red states with blue dem senators go back to red crazy ass kobach wins in ks ga dem loses Oh then we complain whine and cry but don't do anything concrete to win. We just can't get our shit together on a message. ZERO leadership. Yeah, I hear all that. Sounds reasonable. I think a few small things change, but mostly things stay the same. What message do you think the Dems should rally around? I think Obama's gonna be working the campaign trail hard for the next few weeks and he's the one guy you have who brings everyone together. And, he was all over Trump today. A good one is what several are doing. That being, they support healthcare for all, yet never answer the question of how to pay for it,(as it would involve increasing taxes which would upset the voters and risk moving those votes more to the Republicans & Independents), etc. They need to correct what has been their fundamental issues the past several election cycles, and that is to put forth well founded & logical answers,(similar to what got Trump elected, Brexit, etc). However, they are dug in like an Alabama tick on only “getting Trump” and undoing everything he has set into motion. That’s why the Democrats lost their huge poll lead and all of these races are now a toss up,(which would go against history if the Republicans maintain/increase their leads in both houses of Congress).
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Post by oilsooner on Sept 7, 2018 14:59:11 GMT -6
Yeah, I hear all that. Sounds reasonable. I think a few small things change, but mostly things stay the same. What message do you think the Dems should rally around? I think Obama's gonna be working the campaign trail hard for the next few weeks and he's the one guy you have who brings everyone together. And, he was all over Trump today. You really want to get me started don't you? We have got to get back to our base - work class and middle class folks. Black, white brown yellow whatever. Our base has always been working and middle class, we just stopped speaking to them about themselves. What do all folks want? Good jobs that have good low cost benefits. Share in the profits they are producing instead of 95% of them going to executive pay and perks, board pay and perks and shareholders. Now most shareholders mean wall street hedge fund managers, they are the true drivers of companies. We need to explain how medicare for all will benefit them by lowering the cost of health care and drugs - if implemented properly. Student loan debt - they need lower rates and lower college costs. Taxes - why do wall street hedge fund managers and investors pay a different rate than everyone else? Income is income. All should pay the same rates. Raise taxes back to Clinton\Obama levels and lets start to cut into these deficits, working towards eliminating the debt so we can have a real tax cut that will drive the economy. Legalize pot.
Start to clean out jails for non violent offenders.
Explain how sticking up for the rights of minorities and benefits them and does not make their rights superseed your rights. They add to them. We are protecting YOU as we protect minorities. Get the hell out of the middle east and cut defense spending by $300 billion a year. Raise the minimum wage. No more tax credits or offsets or reducing income for moving jobs overseas.
No H2B visa's. Crack back on illegals working - meaning if you catch someone working illegally it is on the company and the fine will be huge. Change the company name and do it again - fucking JAIL. UNIONS MORE FUCKING UNIONS. Protect our country from RUSSIA. To highlight common ground, I at least partly agree with everything in bold. Which looks like most of it to me. Looks like the big differences we have are with taxes and profits, but I think we want similar things in both areas, though have different ideas on how to get there. On taxes, you claim we need to raise taxes (back to Clinton era). I would like the government to be more efficient with the money we give them, which gets the average person more from the government (protection, or whatever, not necessarily in a material sense) with less taxation. Do you think there are inefficiencies in government? If so, do you think its a good idea to root these out as best we can, before giving them more money to potentially be used inefficiently? If we can get government to more prudently spend our money, I think citizens would feel better about being taxed (thus helping your cause). We could also use those new efficiencies to tackle the debt, thus doing the rest of what you wanted (real tax cuts that drive the economy). If you're really feeling froggy, do you think there is an inverse relationship between how much people will work given the tax rate applied to them? If so, what percentage or whatever do you think is that intersection? I mean, we cant tax people to the point that they refuse to go to work. Or, if you don't think that inverse relationship is true, I'm open to hearing your logic.
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Post by oilsooner on Sept 7, 2018 15:01:32 GMT -6
Yeah, I hear all that. Sounds reasonable. I think a few small things change, but mostly things stay the same. What message do you think the Dems should rally around? I think Obama's gonna be working the campaign trail hard for the next few weeks and he's the one guy you have who brings everyone together. And, he was all over Trump today. A good one is what several are doing. That being, they support healthcare for all, yet never answer the question of how to pay for it,(as it would involve increasing taxes which would upset the voters and risk moving those votes more to the Republicans & Independents), etc. They need to correct what has been their fundamental issues the past several election cycles, and that is to put forth well founded & logical answers,(similar to what got Trump elected, Brexit, etc). However, they are dug in like an Alabama tick on only “getting Trump” and undoing everything he has set into motion. That’s why the Democrats lost their huge poll lead and all of these races are now a toss up,(which would go against history if the Republicans maintain/increase their leads in both houses of Congress). Yeah, I totally think they need to let the Trump hate go, but I don't think that's gonna happen. I still think Trump is gonna win in 2020, and I dont know how the dem's are gonna take it. I do hope we can find a way to tone down the rhetoric though, on both sides, or at least try to listen to the other side and be respectful. I think that would help a lot.
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Post by soonerbounce13 on Sept 7, 2018 15:15:58 GMT -6
Yeah, I hear all that. Sounds reasonable. I think a few small things change, but mostly things stay the same. What message do you think the Dems should rally around? I think Obama's gonna be working the campaign trail hard for the next few weeks and he's the one guy you have who brings everyone together. And, he was all over Trump today. Crack back on illegals working - meaning if you catch someone working illegally it is on the company and the fine will be huge. Change the company name and do it again - fucking JAIL. BIGOT!!!!!!!
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Post by trumped on Sept 7, 2018 21:25:05 GMT -6
TheLastRefuge @thelastrefuge2 · 8h Obama lost political seats in every election when he was in office and campaigning. With Obama campaigning Democrats lost the House in 2010, and the Senate in 2014. Now, who do the Dems bring out to campaign 2018? Same guy.
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Post by principledcon on Sept 8, 2018 6:59:57 GMT -6
dailycaller.com/2018/09/06/cynthia-nixon-universal-health-care/Democratic New York gubernatorial candidate Cynthia Nixon hasn’t come up with a plan to fund her campaign promise of health care for all, but she made it known on Wednesday that it is not a deciding factor on whether or not to enact the measure. “Pass it and then figure out how to fund it,” Nixon told The New York Daily News, when asked how to pay for the New York Health Act (NYHA).
The NYHA would institute a statewide universal health care system that could cover all New York state residents, including illegal aliens. While Nixon did not explicitly suggest how to pay for the costly program, she cited a RAND Corporation report that outlined raising various state taxes. A study by the RAND Corporation estimated that tax revenue would need to increase over 150 percent by 2022 in order finance the system.Florida Democratic gubernatorial candidate Andrew Gillum also faced backlash for avoiding explaining how he would fund single-payer health care if elected to governor in November. After a round of questions in CNN’s “State of the Union,” Gillum finally admitted he would need to raise taxes in order for the program to be solvent. Nixon’s gubernatorial challenger and incumbent Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo has also expressed support for a statewide universal health care system. “After redirection of federal and state health care outlays to New York Health (NYH), the additional state tax revenue needed to finance the program in 2022 would be $139 billion, a 156-percent increase over projected total state tax revenue in the status quo,” according to Rand Corporation. “Pass it and then figure out how to fund it,”
Holy shit. and people will vote for this idiot We just allowed it in Oklahoma....$500,000,000 tax increase when we are having record tax revenue...crazy
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