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Post by soonernvolved on Aug 2, 2018 4:12:49 GMT -6
Video at link: amp.dailycaller.com/2018/08/01/cnn-cooper-dershowitz-trump-manafort/Harvard Law professor emeritus Alan Dershowitz corrected CNN host Anderson Cooper’s statements on President Trump and a potential meeting with special counsel Robert Mueller, on Wednesday night. So I think in the end, it’s going to be very unlikely that the lawyers will lose this battle and the president will actually sit down and expose himself to a possible perjury trap,” Dershowitz stated. “Professor, you use the term perjury trap. It’s only a perjury trap if someone wants to perjure themselves,” Cooper responded. “Well, no one is being forced to lie. I mean it’s a perjury trap — correct me.” “Well, I will correct you. If you have the president saying something that he believes is truthful, and then you have another witness, Cohen or Manafort or one of the others contradicting him without regard to who is telling the truth, you could get a perjury prosecution,” Dershowitz continued. “So I’ve often advised clients who have insisted to me that they will only tell the truth. I say to them, ‘but it is possible that any other witness will tell the truth different than yours?'” Dershowitz has described Manafort’s trial as a tool to go after the president, saying that had he not been associated with the president, he would still be a free man.
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Post by soonernvolved on Aug 2, 2018 4:23:38 GMT -6
abcnews.go.com/US/special-counsel-mueller-president-obstruction-justice-sources/story?id=56973384Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office wants to ask President Donald Trump about obstruction of justice, sources close to the White House tell ABC News. According to sources, the president learned within the last day that the special counsel will limit the scope of questioning and would like to ask questions both orally and written for the President to respond to. According to sources familiar with the President’s reaction Wednesday morning, that was the genesis for his early morning tweet storm. Trump took to twitter in one of his strongest attacks against the federal probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, saying: “This is a terrible situation and Attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further. Bob Mueller is totally conflicted, and his 17 Angry Democrats that are doing his dirty work are a disgrace to USA!” ...... Translation:
I hate Hillary about as much as the next person, but c'mon man, she did 11 hours with Gowdy and company, surely Trump can sit down for a chat with Mueller?
Major differences between the two,(namely a Clinton employee pleading the fifth 125 consecutive times), but no need to give a politically motivated witch hunt a life line as they are failing to provide proof of collusion, etc.
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Post by soonernvolved on Aug 2, 2018 5:45:53 GMT -6
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Post by okirishfan on Aug 2, 2018 7:53:58 GMT -6
abcnews.go.com/US/special-counsel-mueller-president-obstruction-justice-sources/story?id=56973384Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s office wants to ask President Donald Trump about obstruction of justice, sources close to the White House tell ABC News. According to sources, the president learned within the last day that the special counsel will limit the scope of questioning and would like to ask questions both orally and written for the President to respond to. According to sources familiar with the President’s reaction Wednesday morning, that was the genesis for his early morning tweet storm. Trump took to twitter in one of his strongest attacks against the federal probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, saying: “This is a terrible situation and Attorney General Jeff Sessions should stop this Rigged Witch Hunt right now, before it continues to stain our country any further. Bob Mueller is totally conflicted, and his 17 Angry Democrats that are doing his dirty work are a disgrace to USA!” ...... Translation: There's an easy way to dismantle that trap: Don't lie (like saying you had nothing to do with Trump Jr.'s response to Russia meeting-which was also lied about by Trump Jr. before the press cornered him). However, this president is incapable of telling the truth, so yeah, I can see where this might be a problem for him.
And am I missing something somewhere? Is a prosecutor bound by the law to let those whom he is investigating know what evidence he has in order to continue said investigation? Is that written somewhere? I mean I realize we have a host of very intelligent Trump supporters out there whose defense is, "if there was something it would have been leaked by now", and that's almost compelling enough to solidify the idea that Trump is innocent, but I'm looking more at a legal obligation rather than armchair lawyering because I want my guy to be innocent.
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Post by okirishfan on Aug 2, 2018 7:57:37 GMT -6
I'd say other. There are conservatives ideals I agree with and there are some liberal ideals I agree with. And then there are just some things where I don't think there is really any particular belief system that would solve some problems or are more right than the other.
But as to your point about being emotional, I don't have a problem with emotion, personally. But I also don't claim that one side (ALL people from said side) is inherently flawed because they don't think rationally, are emotional, don't believe in facts, etc. etc.
Fair enough. Out of curiosity, what are your liberal ideals? Let me think about that for a bit. Also, there's an inherent problem in that some things are considered "liberal" when to me they really aren't. For example, gay marriage. To me it's not liberal to be on the pro side of that, it's conservative. Saying that the government need not be involved in such decisions as who can marry whom, would be a conservative ideal to me but that is something that has been twisted to mean something else, as far as the principle involved goes, i.e. getting government out of personal issues AND securing that any privilege, right, etc. that is offered to one group should be offered to another.
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Post by NN on Aug 2, 2018 8:11:26 GMT -6
Which were oddly paid by foreign bank wire transfers, foreign accounts which he had lied about by stating he didn't have any.
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Post by NN on Aug 2, 2018 8:12:41 GMT -6
Pardon them all. At this point, I don't even care what Manafort may or may not have done with his business in the past, since laws don't seem to matter in this country anymore. Manafort, Gates, Flynn, Papadopolous, everyone who has been unfairly captured in Mueller's abattoir of injustice, pardon all of them. Then tell Mueller to shove his illegal, sham investigation straight up his ass, and live with the political consequences of it, since the Democrats are going to try to impeach Trump anyway. That's the train wreck I'm holding out for.
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Post by NN on Aug 2, 2018 8:20:43 GMT -6
I hate Hillary about as much as the next person, but c'mon man, she did 11 hours with Gowdy and company, surely Trump can sit down for a chat with Mueller?
Major differences between the two,(namely a Clinton employee pleading the fifth 125 consecutive times), but no need to give a politically motivated witch hunt a life line as they are failing to provide proof of collusion, etc. Trump could plead the fifth 125 times too, so again what's the difference? If he's so eager to clear his name and has nothing to hide he should do it. Do you really believe his lawyers are keeping him from doing this? No one I've seen has the ability to control him or tell him what to do (except maybe Putin). Fact is if he really was compelled to talk with Mueller he'd do it. He's squirming and scared.
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Post by redrex1 on Aug 2, 2018 9:43:31 GMT -6
Major differences between the two,(namely a Clinton employee pleading the fifth 125 consecutive times), but no need to give a politically motivated witch hunt a life line as they are failing to provide proof of collusion, etc. Trump could plead the fifth 125 times too, so again what's the difference? If he's so eager to clear his name and has nothing to hide he should do it. Do you really believe his lawyers are keeping him from doing this? No one I've seen has the ability to control him or tell him what to do (except maybe Putin). Fact is if he really was compelled to talk with Mueller he'd do it. He's squirming and scared. Keep Dreaming----Its your last hope
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Post by Boots on Aug 2, 2018 10:46:51 GMT -6
Podesta about to get indicted ?
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Post by NN on Aug 2, 2018 11:15:31 GMT -6
Podesta about to get indicted ? I think him and 2 other Clinton associates. Get them all.
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Post by kcrufnek on Aug 2, 2018 11:42:25 GMT -6
That was really compelling, thanks for sharing. You need it spoon fed? They are not even close to the same thing. As compelling as you were incorrect.
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Post by kcrufnek on Aug 2, 2018 11:46:32 GMT -6
Which were oddly paid by foreign bank wire transfers, foreign accounts which he had lied about by stating he didn't have any. Which has exactly nothing to do with what Mueller and his investigation was supposed to be uncovering. This is absurd. Lee Harvey Oswald had more freedom while in custody. And who cares what he spends his money on? Mueller is a millionaire. Why not disclose if he buys name brand or generic.
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Post by redrex1 on Aug 2, 2018 12:24:48 GMT -6
Russia has done exactly what they wanted to do-----We the help of the news media and the Dem party they have divided the country----Well done fools, you are the ones that have been played
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Post by NN on Aug 2, 2018 12:25:17 GMT -6
That was really compelling, thanks for sharing. You need it spoon fed? They are not even close to the same thing. As compelling as you were incorrect. Cool story bro.
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Post by NN on Aug 2, 2018 12:30:22 GMT -6
Which were oddly paid by foreign bank wire transfers, foreign accounts which he had lied about by stating he didn't have any. Which has exactly nothing to do with what Mueller and his investigation was supposed to be uncovering. This is absurd. Lee Harvey Oswald had more freedom while in custody. And who cares what he spends his money on? Mueller is a millionaire. Why not disclose if he buys name brand or generic. And where did that freedom get him? You want to see Mueller's taxes or something? That's funny. Blowjobs don't have anything to do with Whitewater investigation, but Billy lied about it and was impeached.
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Post by zcaa0g on Aug 2, 2018 12:33:19 GMT -6
Fair enough. Out of curiosity, what are your liberal ideals? Let me think about that for a bit. Also, there's an inherent problem in that some things are considered "liberal" when to me they really aren't. For example, gay marriage. To me it's not liberal to be on the pro side of that, it's conservative. It also depends on whether the term conservative is being used in the context of law versus religion. From a legal standpoint, it should be allowed and is although I prefer it ALWAYS be decided at a state level. I like to keep as much state "sovereignty/independence" as possible. I'm not into that one world order business at any level like the Democratic Party wants where they control everything and everyone. From a religious aspect which is really where I think Mike Pence is coming from and shouldn't in a position such as his (personal feelings are fine, just not wanting law based on religious belief), while the term "marriage" isn't specifically mentioned in The Bible per se (although is in the original Hebrew with rough definitions hailing from the terms of baal, laqach and ownah), it's clearly a union between a man and a woman and that's not only stated in The Old Testament, but The New Testament as well. So with all of that said, my personal approach to is obey my government's laws, be a Constitutional Conservative and let the Good Lord sort out the rest.
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Post by kcrufnek on Aug 2, 2018 16:43:21 GMT -6
And where did that freedom get him? You want to see Mueller's taxes or something? That's funny. Blowjobs don't have anything to do with Whitewater investigation, but Billy lied about it and was impeached. He lied under oath to a federal judge. Sorry but a president cannot do that no matter what. If you are asking him about apples and he lies about oranges then he's still lying under oath. Mueller isn't interested in catching Trump in a lie about Russia. He's hoping to get him to misspeak about what he had for breakfast.
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Post by NN on Aug 2, 2018 17:02:17 GMT -6
And where did that freedom get him? You want to see Mueller's taxes or something? That's funny. Blowjobs don't have anything to do with Whitewater investigation, but Billy lied about it and was impeached. He lied under oath to a federal judge. Sorry but a president cannot do that no matter what. If you are asking him about apples and he lies about oranges then he's still lying under oath. Mueller isn't interested in catching Trump in a lie about Russia. He's hoping to get him to misspeak about what he had for breakfast. So lying about sex is only bad if it's to a federal judge, got it.
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Post by soonernvolved on Aug 2, 2018 17:38:12 GMT -6
www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/08/02/robert-mueller-seeks-interview-with-russian-pop-singer-emin-agalarov/Special counsel Robert Mueller wants to interview Russian pop singer Emin Agalarov as part of the Trump-Russia collusion probe, according to reports. Scott Balber, Agalarov’s lawyer, told NBC News he is in negotiations with the special counsel’s office pertaining to a possible interview with his client. “Conversations are ongoing,” Balber says in relation to a potential sit-down between the two parties. “Unclear how this will play out.” www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/mueller-wants-interview-russian-pop-star-emin-agalarov-lawyer-says-n896951The Agalarovs were partners in the Trump Organization’s hosting of the 2013 Miss America pageant in Moscow. They also played a key role in arranging the June 2016 meeting of Donald Trump Jr.; Jared Kushner, Donald Trump’s son-in-law and now senior adviser; Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager at the time; a Kremlin-linked lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya; and others, according to congressional testimony. Aras Agalarov had told an intermediary, Rob Goldstone, that Veselnitskaya had “information that would incriminate” Hillary Clinton, Goldstone wrote in an email to Trump Jr. on June 3, 2016. The meeting took place days later, on June 9.
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Post by soonernvolved on Aug 2, 2018 17:41:51 GMT -6
Next on Mueller’s list, Boris Badenov & Natasha:
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Post by kcrufnek on Aug 2, 2018 18:14:17 GMT -6
www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/08/02/robert-mueller-seeks-interview-with-russian-pop-singer-emin-agalarov/Special counsel Robert Mueller wants to interview Russian pop singer Emin Agalarov as part of the Trump-Russia collusion probe, according to reports. Scott Balber, Agalarov’s lawyer, told NBC News he is in negotiations with the special counsel’s office pertaining to a possible interview with his client. “Conversations are ongoing,” Balber says in relation to a potential sit-down between the two parties. “Unclear how this will play out.” www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/mueller-wants-interview-russian-pop-star-emin-agalarov-lawyer-says-n896951The Agalarovs were partners in the Trump Organization’s hosting of the 2013 Miss America pageant in Moscow. They also played a key role in arranging the June 2016 meeting of Donald Trump Jr.; Jared Kushner, Donald Trump’s son-in-law and now senior adviser; Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager at the time; a Kremlin-linked lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya; and others, according to congressional testimony. Aras Agalarov had told an intermediary, Rob Goldstone, that Veselnitskaya had “information that would incriminate” Hillary Clinton, Goldstone wrote in an email to Trump Jr. on June 3, 2016. The meeting took place days later, on June 9.
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Post by 1tc on Aug 2, 2018 19:35:48 GMT -6
Fair enough. Out of curiosity, what are your liberal ideals? Let me think about that for a bit. Also, there's an inherent problem in that some things are considered "liberal" when to me they really aren't. For example, gay marriage. To me it's not liberal to be on the pro side of that, it's conservative. Saying that the government need not be involved in such decisions as who can marry whom, would be a conservative ideal to me but that is something that has been twisted to mean something else, as far as the principle involved goes, i.e. getting government out of personal issues AND securing that any privilege, right, etc. that is offered to one group should be offered to another. Now that you’ve thought about it a bit, what are some of the liberal ideals you agree with?
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Post by sooner98 on Aug 2, 2018 21:58:42 GMT -6
www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/08/02/robert-mueller-seeks-interview-with-russian-pop-singer-emin-agalarov/Special counsel Robert Mueller wants to interview Russian pop singer Emin Agalarov as part of the Trump-Russia collusion probe, according to reports. Scott Balber, Agalarov’s lawyer, told NBC News he is in negotiations with the special counsel’s office pertaining to a possible interview with his client. “Conversations are ongoing,” Balber says in relation to a potential sit-down between the two parties. “Unclear how this will play out.” www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/mueller-wants-interview-russian-pop-star-emin-agalarov-lawyer-says-n896951The Agalarovs were partners in the Trump Organization’s hosting of the 2013 Miss America pageant in Moscow. They also played a key role in arranging the June 2016 meeting of Donald Trump Jr.; Jared Kushner, Donald Trump’s son-in-law and now senior adviser; Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager at the time; a Kremlin-linked lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya; and others, according to congressional testimony. Aras Agalarov had told an intermediary, Rob Goldstone, that Veselnitskaya had “information that would incriminate” Hillary Clinton, Goldstone wrote in an email to Trump Jr. on June 3, 2016. The meeting took place days later, on June 9. You would think a competent investigator would also want to interview Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS, since it's reported that Veselnitskaya met with him before AND after the Trump Tower non-collusion meeting where absolutely no information was exchanged. Of course, we are talking about Team Mueller here, unfortunately.
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Post by politicalmexininja on Aug 3, 2018 3:54:18 GMT -6
www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2018/08/02/robert-mueller-seeks-interview-with-russian-pop-singer-emin-agalarov/Special counsel Robert Mueller wants to interview Russian pop singer Emin Agalarov as part of the Trump-Russia collusion probe, according to reports. Scott Balber, Agalarov’s lawyer, told NBC News he is in negotiations with the special counsel’s office pertaining to a possible interview with his client. “Conversations are ongoing,” Balber says in relation to a potential sit-down between the two parties. “Unclear how this will play out.” www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/mueller-wants-interview-russian-pop-star-emin-agalarov-lawyer-says-n896951The Agalarovs were partners in the Trump Organization’s hosting of the 2013 Miss America pageant in Moscow. They also played a key role in arranging the June 2016 meeting of Donald Trump Jr.; Jared Kushner, Donald Trump’s son-in-law and now senior adviser; Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager at the time; a Kremlin-linked lawyer, Natalia Veselnitskaya; and others, according to congressional testimony. Aras Agalarov had told an intermediary, Rob Goldstone, that Veselnitskaya had “information that would incriminate” Hillary Clinton, Goldstone wrote in an email to Trump Jr. on June 3, 2016. The meeting took place days later, on June 9. You would think a competent investigator would also want to interview Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS, since it's reported that Veselnitskaya met with him before AND after the Trump Tower non-collusion meeting where absolutely no information was exchanged. Of course, we are talking about Team Mueller here, unfortunately. If Mueller was truly 'independent', Hillary and assoc. would all be interviewed. Haven't heard a peep about any of that...plus, just look at who is known to be on the Mueller team...that speaks volumes and tells me there is no doubt their sole goal is 'get Trump'...
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Post by soonernvolved on Aug 3, 2018 5:00:53 GMT -6
You would think a competent investigator would also want to interview Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS, since it's reported that Veselnitskaya met with him before AND after the Trump Tower non-collusion meeting where absolutely no information was exchanged. Of course, we are talking about Team Mueller here, unfortunately. If Mueller was truly 'independent', Hillary and assoc. would all be interviewed. Haven't heard a peep about any of that...plus, just look at who is known to be on the Mueller team...that speaks volumes and tells me there is no doubt their sole goal is 'get Trump'... Add to it, reports that the Podesta brothers were given immunity when they did similar to Manafort by failing to report their overseas deals,( until they got the incredible foresight to correct this, which happened just before Manafort got charged). Also, if he was truly independent, he would also investigate his colleagues over at the FBI/DOJ and question why they lied to a judge, falsified intelligence, etc to obtain a FISA warrant to start this whole crusade.
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Post by soonernvolved on Aug 3, 2018 5:01:53 GMT -6
saraacarter.com/lawmakers-demand-declassification-of-bruce-ohr-fbi-interviews/The lawmakers say Ohr’s close relationship with former British spy and dossier author, Christopher Steele is deeply troubling. Also concerning to lawmakers is the fact that even after Steele was terminated by the FBI (he worked as a source until he was fired for “unauthorized disclosure to the media of his relationship with the FBI”), Ohr continued to supply documents from the ex-spy to the bureau. Lawmakers tell SaraACarter.com that the interview documents (known as 302s) should be declassified because they believe it will reveal the extent of Ohr’s involvement with Fusion GPS, his relationship with Steele and Fusion GPS owner Glenn Simpson, and his communications with FBI officials investigating Trump’s campaign. “Ohr was one of the top officials at DOJ and they told the court they had terminated Steele, but Ohr was continuing to meet with Steele despite his termination and then (he was) feeding the information to the FBI,” said Nunes on Thursday. “It is completely appropriate for Grassley to ask for these documents to be declassified.”
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Post by soonernvolved on Aug 3, 2018 5:09:24 GMT -6
dailycaller.com/2018/08/02/doj-preserve-comey-emails/The Department of Justice is refusing to preserve work-related emails on former FBI Director James Comey’s private account. The Justice Department Inspector General disclosed that Comey used a personal email account to conduct agency business. The Justice Department has refused to turn over government records on Comey’s personal account, which The Daily Caller News Foundation and Judicial Watch requested under the Freedom of Information Act. The Department of Justice has refused to take any steps to preserve work-related emails former FBI Director James Comey had on a personal account that The Daily Caller News Foundation and Judicial Watch requested under the Freedom of Information Act, the conservative watchdog will file in court Friday. “There is nothing but complete silence about why the FBI has failed to take steps to preserve records responsive to DCNF’s request,” Judicial Watch attorney Michael Bekesha will write in the filing before the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. Judicial Watch and TheDCNF filed a joint lawsuit under the Freedom of Information Act on April 25 seeking records, including emails, Comey produced regarding meetings and conversations he had with then-President Barack Obama, then-Vice President Joe Biden and a variety of other political figures. Following the Justice Department Inspector General’s June 2018 report, which disclosed that Comey used a personal Gmail account for official FBI business, both groups sought a preservation order to assure no records related to their FOIA requests were lost or destroyed. Both groups requested U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly order the Justice Department to preserve all of Comey’s personal emails related to the two requests on July 27. The same day, Kollar-Kotelly took the unusual step of demanding an expedited reply from the Justice Department, ordering that the agency respond to the court by Aug. 1 and to respond to Judicial Watch and TheDCNF by Aug. 3. (RELATED: Daily Caller News Foundation And Judicial Watch Seek To Preserve Comey’s Private Emails) In its reply to the court on Aug. 1, Justice Department U.S. Attorney Jessie K. Liu continued to refuse to send an order to Comey or share its communications with the former director seeking the preservation of all his personal emails related to the FOIA requests. In its opposition to the preservation request, the Justice Department stated, “even if they [sic] were a possibility of responsive records in Director Comey’s personal email, Plaintiffs cannot meet their burden of showing that such records would be lost without a preservation order.”
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Post by soonernvolved on Aug 3, 2018 8:07:20 GMT -6
thefederalist.com/2018/08/03/spygate-turning-democrats-like-party/How Spygate Is Turning Democrats Like Me Against Our Party I was a long-time Democrat who 'walked away' from the party because I couldn’t stomach the Democrats’ anti-democratic antics. Saritha Prabhu By Saritha Prabhu AUGUST 3, 2018 I don’t much like Donald Trump and didn’t vote for him (or Hillary) in 2016, but I’ve been feeling sorry for him for about 18 months now. It feels strange feeling sorry for someone who’s a boor, a narcissist, an egomaniac, and a serial philanderer, plus the 37 other negative traits usually used to describe him. But it has something to do with the fact that he has been treated in a grossly unfair manner by the mainstream media and the political and cultural left, on a scale we’ve never seen before. One story of the last two years is how this most alpha of alpha males has become an underdog of sorts in American politics today. Of course, you won’t find this narrative in any of the mainstream media outlets. This narrative merely exists in the minds of millions of voters who are outside the core Democratic base: those of us who are Republicans, moderates, independents, former Democrats like myself. We’ve been silently watching, listening, observing the opposition to Trump in the last eighteen months, and it’s been the most sickening thing to see, more appalling than what the right did to President Obama. As one voter put it in an article I read a while ago, the hatred shown toward Trump has been “un-American.” I agree with that sentiment, even as I simultaneously hold the thought that Trump is not someone whose character needs defending. Memo to the left: Know why Trump’s poll numbers have been steady or rising slightly in spite of the invective you’ve been pouring on him every minute of every day? It’s because the economy is booming, and also because most Americans are fair-minded and think that even a flawed sinner like Trump doesn’t deserve to be figuratively kicked every day in a manner that’s often dishonest, exaggerated or out-of-context. Trump ran as the most anti- of anti-establishment candidates in 2016, and almost everything the political and media establishments have done since then have confirmed what millions of voters have realized: these establishments are out-of-control, they want presidential candidates and presidents they can control, and they won’t abide a true outsider. In effect, their post-election behavior has confirmed that a President Trump was necessary for this time in American politics. The reality is, there was no peaceful transition of power on Jan. 20, 2017. From the time Trump won the Republican nomination, there has been a concerted effort from different quarters – the press, Hollywood, academia, the Democratic Party – to smear and undermine him. Some of this was legitimate and what naturally happens in an election. But a lot of the opposition to him was breathtaking and unprecedented, and we’ve been learning more as time passes by. The highest levels of the FBI secretly spied on his campaign, and they did it by misleading the FISA court and using an unverified dossier paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign. And the unprecedented opposition continued with a fake Russia collusion narrative and a dubious special counsel investigation to undermine and possibly remove a duly elected president elected by the masses whom the establishment happens not to like. If they are successful, we don’t have a constitutional republic anymore, folks. It’s that simple. I was a long-time Democrat who “walked away” from the party because I couldn’t stomach the Democrats’ anti-democratic antics. Post-2017, it is like the mask has been ripped off. It has become apparent that the Democratic Party and its media supporters seem to have a problem with representative democracy and how it works. They lost an election they thought they’d handily win, and their reaction to it has been to have a long, screeching public tantrum. Bill Maher and other liberal commentators have openly talked about the urgent necessity to “remove” Trump. Remove Trump? Are they serious? I thought the way it works if you lose an election is you try to present a better argument before the electorate the next time and win the next election, and not simply try to get rid of the election-winner. In the last eighteen months, the left, the so-called deep state and their media enablers have tried their damnedest to get rid of Trump even if it meant trampling over the rule of law and the Constitution. That is why those who used to care deeply about civil liberties have been mum when the civil liberties of Trump, Carter Page and others have been violated. That is why one of the only principled liberal, Prof. Alan Dershowitz, who has been arguing about and defending the civil liberties of the Trump team, has been getting grief and facing ostracism from the left. That is why the mainstream media has not only derelicted its investigative duties, but has been shamelessly spinning one of the biggest stories of our time — how the FBI abused its power to spy on an American political campaign. The striking thing is, the side that has been accusing Trump of subverting democracy has been guilty of it themselves. In America, even a serial killer has rights and deserves due process. But in the eyes of the left, Trump deserves neither. But the public isn’t dumb. Those of us who aren’t hardcore Democrats recognize what’s going on and have come to see something that seems counter-intuitive: This loud, brash president is actually a victim and an underdog in American politics today, and he hasn’t been getting a fair shake since he won the election, or been given a proper chance to lead the country.
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Post by soonernvolved on Aug 3, 2018 9:07:10 GMT -6
Techno Fog @techno_Fog Back to the FBI's interview with Paul Manafort in 2014 re: the "misuse of Ukrainian gov't funds"... Why did that 2014 investigation go nowhere? Because it implicated Obama's former White House Counsel Greg Craig. 11:41 AM - Aug 2, 2018 898 802 people are talking about this Techno Fog @techno_Fog Recall: There was a batter to "recover the more than $40 billion stolen by the regime" of the former Ukrainian president. Some of that money was embezzled and used to hire law firm Skadden. 11:43 AM - Aug 2, 2018 ........ Techno Fog @techno_Fog Exactly who was involved with Skadden and Ukraine? Obama's former White House Counsel Greg Craig and Obama's former State Department envoy Cliff Sloan. In fact, Craig had enlisted Manafort's "help" in getting access to the Ukrainian gov't. 11:46 AM - Aug 2, 2018
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