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Post by stinger1066 on Apr 16, 2018 4:39:01 GMT -6
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Post by oilsooner on Apr 16, 2018 7:20:43 GMT -6
So, is he selling books or helping out the country? And, is Rod Rosenstien the real man behind the curtain??
Regardless, I think Mueller should be fired for going outside his original bounds, but Trump can fire him, because politics.
Man, what a mess this has all become. More to prove that a special council is just always a bad idea.
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Post by stinger1066 on Apr 16, 2018 7:37:00 GMT -6
So, is he selling books or helping out the country? And, is Rod Rosenstien the real man behind the curtain?? Regardless, I think Mueller should be fired for going outside his original bounds, but Trump can fire him, because politics. Man, what a mess this has all become. More to prove that a special council is just always a bad idea. Comey is selling books for sure. Gotta strike while the iron is hot. It seems to me that Trump is more worried about the investigation into Cohen.
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Post by oilsooner on Apr 16, 2018 8:17:41 GMT -6
So, is he selling books or helping out the country? And, is Rod Rosenstien the real man behind the curtain?? Regardless, I think Mueller should be fired for going outside his original bounds, but Trump can fire him, because politics. Man, what a mess this has all become. More to prove that a special council is just always a bad idea. Comey is selling books for sure. Gotta strike while the iron is hot. It seems to me that Trump is more worried about the investigation into Cohen. So, I kinda took a break from politics, because honestly, it starts to make me angry just in general after a while. And, I don't like to be generally angry. Anyway, the site issue has me back into it. But, I missed a lot on this investigation into Cohen. The raid was supposedly just about the Stormy Daniels payoff, correct? If so, how was that related to Russia? And, how is it even legal to raid someones lawyers office anyway? I'm sure there is way more to it, but those are my questions after just hearing about it very briefly.
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Post by heff on Apr 16, 2018 8:43:10 GMT -6
I don't know the logistical or political concerns, like who needs to go first or in what order, but the DoJ and FBI and Federal Gov as a whole needs a fucking personel enema!
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Post by stinger1066 on Apr 16, 2018 8:48:17 GMT -6
Comey is selling books for sure. Gotta strike while the iron is hot. It seems to me that Trump is more worried about the investigation into Cohen. So, I kinda took a break from politics, because honestly, it starts to make me angry just in general after a while. And, I don't like to be generally angry. Anyway, the site issue has me back into it. But, I missed a lot on this investigation into Cohen. The raid was supposedly just about the Stormy Daniels payoff, correct? If so, how was that related to Russia? And, how is it even legal to raid someones lawyers office anyway? I'm sure there is way more to it, but those are my questions after just hearing about it very briefly. Good questions. I haven't followed it that closely either, but I know Trump is pissed and has been tweeting about it.
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Post by ictsooner7 on Apr 16, 2018 8:49:48 GMT -6
Comey is selling books for sure. Gotta strike while the iron is hot. It seems to me that Trump is more worried about the investigation into Cohen. So, I kinda took a break from politics, because honestly, it starts to make me angry just in general after a while. And, I don't like to be generally angry. Anyway, the site issue has me back into it. But, I missed a lot on this investigation into Cohen. The raid was supposedly just about the Stormy Daniels payoff, correct? If so, how was that related to Russia? And, how is it even legal to raid someones lawyers office anyway? I'm sure there is way more to it, but those are my questions after just hearing about it very briefly. It seems to be the topper of it. They didn't blow in there like just some lawyer who fucked up. They came in like they were investigating a mob lawyer. They found something on Cohen and wanted to make sure it would be able to be used as evidence at a trail. They did uncover a $1.6m payoff from a RNC board member for an abortion that a women got he was cheating on his wife with got. They also found he was in Prague after he and trump both denied he was. This is going to get ugly before trump pardons everyone.
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Post by atl1979 on Apr 16, 2018 9:11:18 GMT -6
Comey is selling books for sure. Gotta strike while the iron is hot. It seems to me that Trump is more worried about the investigation into Cohen. So, I kinda took a break from politics, because honestly, it starts to make me angry just in general after a while. And, I don't like to be generally angry. Anyway, the site issue has me back into it. But, I missed a lot on this investigation into Cohen. The raid was supposedly just about the Stormy Daniels payoff, correct? If so, how was that related to Russia? And, how is it even legal to raid someones lawyers office anyway? I'm sure there is way more to it, but those are my questions after just hearing about it very briefly. My understanding is that Muellar found "stuff" unrelated to Russia, so he turned it over to a DA to keep him clean on this. DA raids office. It is unknown what "stuff" the DA had that justifies violating attorney/client privilege. One would assume that it must be really bad "stuff" to justify this.
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Post by oilsooner on Apr 16, 2018 9:18:59 GMT -6
So, I kinda took a break from politics, because honestly, it starts to make me angry just in general after a while. And, I don't like to be generally angry. Anyway, the site issue has me back into it. But, I missed a lot on this investigation into Cohen. The raid was supposedly just about the Stormy Daniels payoff, correct? If so, how was that related to Russia? And, how is it even legal to raid someones lawyers office anyway? I'm sure there is way more to it, but those are my questions after just hearing about it very briefly. It seems to be the topper of it. They didn't blow in there like just some lawyer who fucked up. They came in like they were investigating a mob lawyer. They found something on Cohen and wanted to make sure it would be able to be used as evidence at a trail. They did uncover a $1.6m payoff from a RNC board member for an abortion that a women got he was cheating on his wife with got. They also found he was in Prague after he and trump both denied he was. This is going to get ugly before trump pardons everyone. So first, I hate the way this place quotes. We really need to get a technical person that wants to help out. Second, do you believe in attorney client privilege? Do you think Mueller has unlimited authority in what he can look into? Is your opinion in anyway influenced by your dislike of Trump? If it wasnt Trump he was looking into, would your opinion of a special council change? I know we have to work on the honesty system to evaluate your answers, since we dont have a direct correlation to point to, but I am interested in your answer. Does attorney client privileged have merit, or is it something we should get rid of?
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Post by trumped on Apr 16, 2018 10:42:11 GMT -6
So far there is zero Trump/Russia collision. This is all politics and trying to find any dirt on any pub to be used at midterms.
Its a farce. Over 50% of population now supports Trump.
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Post by ictsooner7 on Apr 16, 2018 11:36:33 GMT -6
It seems to be the topper of it. They didn't blow in there like just some lawyer who fucked up. They came in like they were investigating a mob lawyer. They found something on Cohen and wanted to make sure it would be able to be used as evidence at a trail. They did uncover a $1.6m payoff from a RNC board member for an abortion that a women got he was cheating on his wife with got. They also found he was in Prague after he and trump both denied he was. This is going to get ugly before trump pardons everyone. So first, I hate the way this place quotes. We really need to get a technical person that wants to help out. Second, do you believe in attorney client privilege? Do you think Mueller has unlimited authority in what he can look into? Is your opinion in anyway influenced by your dislike of Trump? If it wasnt Trump he was looking into, would your opinion of a special council change? I know we have to work on the honesty system to evaluate your answers, since we dont have a direct correlation to point to, but I am interested in your answer. Does attorney client privileged have merit, or is it something we should get rid of? Not every conversation or act is attorney client privileged. Mueller should have more authority than ken starr did when he investigated clinton, who said he is going to look at everything the clintons have ever done, after all we are talking about treason here not a blow job. I totally and completely despise trump - loutish, boorish, lying, thieving, cheating loser who likes to sexually assault women then brag about it. His only talent he has is the same as all reality TV stars - the willingness to do anything for a buck, no shame whatsoever. starr should have been fired when he made the statement about looking into everything the clintons have ever done. There is zero reason to fire Mueller - besides he is getting too close to the truth for trump.
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Post by ictsooner7 on Apr 16, 2018 11:38:20 GMT -6
So far there is zero Trump/Russia collision. This is all politics and trying to find any dirt on any pub to be used at midterms. Its a farce. Over 50% of population now supports Trump. There is a lot more on trump and russia than were was on Hilary and Benghazi, but it didn't stop the 11 investigations over three years only to be quickly dropped when she lost. That was all politics, trump and russia is treason.
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Post by trumped on Apr 16, 2018 12:03:40 GMT -6
So far there is zero Trump/Russia collision. This is all politics and trying to find any dirt on any pub to be used at midterms. Its a farce. Over 50% of population now supports Trump. There is a lot more on trump and russia than were was on Hilary and Benghazi, but it didn't stop the 11 investigations over three years only to be quickly dropped when she lost. That was all politics, trump and russia is treason. Dems bitch when others bring up Hillary as “has nothing to do with x so stop doing it”. And this post is an alt left poster changing the topic from no collusin to “well they blah blah blah to Hillary ”. Not one word denying this fake witch hunt against Trump. Its fake and everyone knows it.
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Post by ictsooner7 on Apr 16, 2018 12:14:13 GMT -6
There is a lot more on trump and russia than were was on Hilary and Benghazi, but it didn't stop the 11 investigations over three years only to be quickly dropped when she lost. That was all politics, trump and russia is treason. Dems bitch when others bring up Hillary as “has nothing to do with x so stop doing it”. And this post is an alt left poster changing the topic from no collusin to “well they blah blah blah to Hillary ”. Not one word denying this fake witch hunt against Trump. Its fake and everyone knows it. I would reread what I said. It's not fake and people have already plead guilty to crimes and been indicted and it's just starting.
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Post by heff on Apr 16, 2018 12:18:51 GMT -6
So first, I hate the way this place quotes. We really need to get a technical person that wants to help out. Second, do you believe in attorney client privilege? Do you think Mueller has unlimited authority in what he can look into? Is your opinion in anyway influenced by your dislike of Trump? If it wasnt Trump he was looking into, would your opinion of a special council change? I know we have to work on the honesty system to evaluate your answers, since we dont have a direct correlation to point to, but I am interested in your answer. Does attorney client privileged have merit, or is it something we should get rid of? Not every conversation or act is attorney client privileged. Mueller should have more authority than ken starr did when he investigated clinton, who said he is going to look at everything the clintons have ever done, after all we are talking about treason here not a blow job. I totally and completely despise trump - loutish, boorish, lying, thieving, cheating loser who likes to sexually assault women then brag about it. His only talent he has is the same as all reality TV stars - the willingness to do anything for a buck, no shame whatsoever. starr should have been fired when he made the statement about looking into everything the clintons have ever done. There is zero reason to fire Mueller - besides he is getting too close to the truth for trump. You have a child's conception of the world.
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Post by ictsooner7 on Apr 16, 2018 12:22:29 GMT -6
Not every conversation or act is attorney client privileged. Mueller should have more authority than ken starr did when he investigated clinton, who said he is going to look at everything the clintons have ever done, after all we are talking about treason here not a blow job. I totally and completely despise trump - loutish, boorish, lying, thieving, cheating loser who likes to sexually assault women then brag about it. His only talent he has is the same as all reality TV stars - the willingness to do anything for a buck, no shame whatsoever. starr should have been fired when he made the statement about looking into everything the clintons have ever done. There is zero reason to fire Mueller - besides he is getting too close to the truth for trump. You have a child's conception of the world. I have the truth on my side - no need to insult me, but I do know when you cannot argue facts you insult people.
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Post by ictisstillclueless on Apr 16, 2018 12:28:33 GMT -6
I thought about joining this board but I see that some people think that dominating the conversation means they have something to say.
Where are the titty threads?
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Post by oilsooner on Apr 16, 2018 12:39:19 GMT -6
So first, I hate the way this place quotes. We really need to get a technical person that wants to help out. Second, do you believe in attorney client privilege? Do you think Mueller has unlimited authority in what he can look into? Is your opinion in anyway influenced by your dislike of Trump? If it wasnt Trump he was looking into, would your opinion of a special council change? I know we have to work on the honesty system to evaluate your answers, since we dont have a direct correlation to point to, but I am interested in your answer. Does attorney client privileged have merit, or is it something we should get rid of? Not every conversation or act is attorney client privileged. Mueller should have more authority than ken starr did when he investigated clinton, who said he is going to look at everything the clintons have ever done, after all we are talking about treason here not a blow job. I totally and completely despise trump - loutish, boorish, lying, thieving, cheating loser who likes to sexually assault women then brag about it. His only talent he has is the same as all reality TV stars - the willingness to do anything for a buck, no shame whatsoever. starr should have been fired when he made the statement about looking into everything the clintons have ever done. There is zero reason to fire Mueller - besides he is getting too close to the truth for trump. They raided his lawyers office. I think that clearly goes well beyond "not every conversation." And, you say Mueller should have more powers than Starr, who you then say should have been fired? I dont get that. There is no doubt Trump has shady stuff in his past. But, there are legal ways to go about uncovering or prosecuting that (if warranted), and there are reasons there are rules and regulations in the justice system. Those are being bypassed here, and allowing it to happen, even though its faulting someone you dont agree with, is a terrible precedent, and it will come back to haunt you once the tables turn. I say we should have never crossed the threshold in the first place.
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Post by heff on Apr 16, 2018 12:42:09 GMT -6
You have a child's conception of the world. I have the truth on my side - no need to insult me, but I do know when you cannot argue facts you insult people. I know better than to argue with someone who won't engage in a debate with intellectual honesty. Your blind allegiance to the powers that be is noxious to witness when it flies in the face of millions of years of evolution; when every animal understands protecting itself is priority number 1. That you can't recognize what's happened to our country due to decades of Neo-Liberal/Neo-Conservative Globalism is still painful to read. We've gone round and round on LT Politics - I'm only interested in insulting you these days. The only thing on your side is willful ignorance due to either party or ideological devotion. Read something not assigned to you by extremist professors and get back to us. If you can actually expose yourself to the foundational writings of liberalism and remain a leftist involved with the DNC, who have become incredibly illiberal, then you need to just grab copies of Das Kapital, Prison Notebooks, and A People's History Of The United States and fully commit yourself to what the DNC has become; The Party of Neo-Marxism. Once I actually became better read, and then applied those liberal prerequisites to the ideological dogma of the DNC, well, I was out of there by 2013. My 2012 vote for Obama being my last crime against my country. But guess what, I still don't like the GOP - but I recognize the populist movement to fix the republic is on the right.
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Post by ictsooner7 on Apr 16, 2018 12:56:11 GMT -6
I have the truth on my side - no need to insult me, but I do know when you cannot argue facts you insult people. I know better than to argue with someone who won't engage in a debate with intellectual honesty. Your blind allegiance to the powers that be is noxious to witness when it flies in the face of millions of years of evolution; when every animal understands protecting itself is priority number 1. That you can't recognize what's happened to our country due to decades of Neo-Liberal/Neo-Conservative Globalism is still painful to read. We've gone round and round on LT Politics - I'm only interested in insulting you these days. The only thing on your side is willful ignorance due to either party or ideological devotion. Read something not assigned to you by extremist professors and get back to us. If you can actually expose yourself to the foundational writings of liberalism and remain a leftist involved with the DNC, who have become incredibly illiberal, then you need to just grab copies of Das Kapital, Prison Notebooks, and A People's History Of The United States and fully commit yourself to what the DNC has become; The Party of Neo-Marxism. Once I actually became better read, and then applied those liberal prerequisites to the ideological dogma of the DNC, well, I was out of there by 2013. My 2012 vote for Obama being my last crime against my country. But guess what, I still don't like the GOP - but I recognize the populist movement to fix the republic is on the right. Funny how you claim "someone who won't engage in a debate with intellectual honesty" then you say "I'm only interested in insulting you these days." See any hypocrisy here? You again claim "The only thing on your side is willful ignorance due to either party or ideological devotion. Read something not assigned to you by extremist professors and get back to us." then are pissed when I don't jump onto your party ideology. Look at what happened to our country over the last 38 years of trickle down supply side economics. Where is your pension? Where is your health insurance? Where is your raise? When do the folks who do the work going to get their end of the economic growth we have experienced over this time. CEO's, board members and sock holders sure have been getting theirs while middle class republican voters will fight to the death for more tax cuts for the wealthy and their right to take all the spoils. The proof is you really do think gop is the party of "populist movement", what a laugh. Republicans are the party of billionaires, by billionaires, for billionaires and don the con sold you a trump university to get you to vote for him. A vote for trump is a vote for treason.
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Post by trumped on Apr 16, 2018 14:10:21 GMT -6
I know better than to argue with someone who won't engage in a debate with intellectual honesty. Your blind allegiance to the powers that be is noxious to witness when it flies in the face of millions of years of evolution; when every animal understands protecting itself is priority number 1. That you can't recognize what's happened to our country due to decades of Neo-Liberal/Neo-Conservative Globalism is still painful to read. We've gone round and round on LT Politics - I'm only interested in insulting you these days. The only thing on your side is willful ignorance due to either party or ideological devotion. Read something not assigned to you by extremist professors and get back to us. If you can actually expose yourself to the foundational writings of liberalism and remain a leftist involved with the DNC, who have become incredibly illiberal, then you need to just grab copies of Das Kapital, Prison Notebooks, and A People's History Of The United States and fully commit yourself to what the DNC has become; The Party of Neo-Marxism. Once I actually became better read, and then applied those liberal prerequisites to the ideological dogma of the DNC, well, I was out of there by 2013. My 2012 vote for Obama being my last crime against my country. But guess what, I still don't like the GOP - but I recognize the populist movement to fix the republic is on the right. Funny how you claim "someone who won't engage in a debate with intellectual honesty" then you say "I'm only interested in insulting you these days." See any hypocrisy here? You again claim "The only thing on your side is willful ignorance due to either party or ideological devotion. Read something not assigned to you by extremist professors and get back to us." then are pissed when I don't jump onto your party ideology. Look at what happened to our country over the last 38 years of trickle down supply side economics. Where is your pension? Where is your health insurance? Where is your raise? When do the folks who do the work going to get their end of the economic growth we have experienced over this time. CEO's, board members and sock holders sure have been getting theirs while middle class republican voters will fight to the death for more tax cuts for the wealthy and their right to take all the spoils. The proof is you really do think gop is the party of "populist movement", what a laugh. Republicans are the party of billionaires, by billionaires, for billionaires and don the con sold you a trump university to get you to vote for him. A vote for trump is a vote for treason. This is a stupid post.
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Post by ictsooner7 on Apr 16, 2018 14:56:46 GMT -6
Funny how you claim "someone who won't engage in a debate with intellectual honesty" then you say "I'm only interested in insulting you these days." See any hypocrisy here? You again claim "The only thing on your side is willful ignorance due to either party or ideological devotion. Read something not assigned to you by extremist professors and get back to us." then are pissed when I don't jump onto your party ideology. Look at what happened to our country over the last 38 years of trickle down supply side economics. Where is your pension? Where is your health insurance? Where is your raise? When do the folks who do the work going to get their end of the economic growth we have experienced over this time. CEO's, board members and sock holders sure have been getting theirs while middle class republican voters will fight to the death for more tax cuts for the wealthy and their right to take all the spoils. The proof is you really do think gop is the party of "populist movement", what a laugh. Republicans are the party of billionaires, by billionaires, for billionaires and don the con sold you a trump university to get you to vote for him. A vote for trump is a vote for treason. This is a stupid post. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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Post by redrex on Apr 16, 2018 15:11:49 GMT -6
Looks like ICKY never got that Professional help
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Post by ictsooner7 on Apr 16, 2018 15:17:29 GMT -6
Looks like ICKY never got that Professional help Hey is that you REDNECKREX? Nice to see you again. How have you been?
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Post by stinger1066 on Apr 16, 2018 15:22:27 GMT -6
Looks like ICKY never got that Professional help REDREX in da hizouse!
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Post by okie52 on Apr 16, 2018 16:59:13 GMT -6
Funny how you claim "someone who won't engage in a debate with intellectual honesty" then you say "I'm only interested in insulting you these days." See any hypocrisy here? You again claim "The only thing on your side is willful ignorance due to either party or ideological devotion. Read something not assigned to you by extremist professors and get back to us." then are pissed when I don't jump onto your party ideology. Look at what happened to our country over the last 38 years of trickle down supply side economics. Where is your pension? Where is your health insurance? Where is your raise? When do the folks who do the work going to get their end of the economic growth we have experienced over this time. CEO's, board members and sock holders sure have been getting theirs while middle class republican voters will fight to the death for more tax cuts for the wealthy and their right to take all the spoils. The proof is you really do think gop is the party of "populist movement", what a laugh. Republicans are the party of billionaires, by billionaires, for billionaires and don the con sold you a trump university to get you to vote for him. A vote for trump is a vote for treason. This is a stupid post.
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Post by okie52 on Apr 16, 2018 16:59:38 GMT -6
I know better than to argue with someone who won't engage in a debate with intellectual honesty. Your blind allegiance to the powers that be is noxious to witness when it flies in the face of millions of years of evolution; when every animal understands protecting itself is priority number 1. That you can't recognize what's happened to our country due to decades of Neo-Liberal/Neo-Conservative Globalism is still painful to read. We've gone round and round on LT Politics - I'm only interested in insulting you these days. The only thing on your side is willful ignorance due to either party or ideological devotion. Read something not assigned to you by extremist professors and get back to us. If you can actually expose yourself to the foundational writings of liberalism and remain a leftist involved with the DNC, who have become incredibly illiberal, then you need to just grab copies of Das Kapital, Prison Notebooks, and A People's History Of The United States and fully commit yourself to what the DNC has become; The Party of Neo-Marxism. Once I actually became better read, and then applied those liberal prerequisites to the ideological dogma of the DNC, well, I was out of there by 2013. My 2012 vote for Obama being my last crime against my country. But guess what, I still don't like the GOP - but I recognize the populist movement to fix the republic is on the right. Funny how you claim "someone who won't engage in a debate with intellectual honesty" then you say "I'm only interested in insulting you these days." See any hypocrisy here? You again claim "The only thing on your side is willful ignorance due to either party or ideological devotion. Read something not assigned to you by extremist professors and get back to us." then are pissed when I don't jump onto your party ideology. Look at what happened to our country over the last 38 years of trickle down supply side economics. Where is your pension? Where is your health insurance? Where is your raise? When do the folks who do the work going to get their end of the economic growth we have experienced over this time. CEO's, board members and sock holders sure have been getting theirs while middle class republican voters will fight to the death for more tax cuts for the wealthy and their right to take all the spoils. The proof is you really do think gop is the party of "populist movement", what a laugh. Republicans are the party of billionaires, by billionaires, for billionaires and don the con sold you a trump university to get you to vote for him. A vote for trump is a vote for treason.
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Post by okie52 on Apr 16, 2018 17:01:59 GMT -6
Icky...glad to see you made it over...
So 38 years of trickle down economics? So that includes Clinton and Obama?
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Post by atl1979 on Apr 16, 2018 17:26:28 GMT -6
The Martha Mcallum (sp) interview with Rove and two others is must see tv with regard to a summary of Comey's deceit.
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Post by okie52 on Apr 16, 2018 17:42:46 GMT -6
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