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Post by soonerbounce13 on Nov 13, 2018 13:05:55 GMT -6
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Post by sooner98 on Nov 13, 2018 13:42:27 GMT -6
In what has to be the most bizarre election result I have ever seen, Taliban-sympathizing Democrat Kyrsten Sinema has defeated decorated war hero Republican Martha McSally for Arizona's senate seat. Sinema, of whom there are multiple videos of her explaining how disgusted she is with the utter repulsiveness of the voters of Arizona, was rewarded by those same voters with an election victory, for some reason. Apparently, suburban women handed Sinema the win, despite the fact that Sinema will almost certainly move to confiscate some or all of their families' life savings to pay for health care and education for other people, and throw open the southern border of their state to the third-world swarm. This is a more appealing outcome than McSally, because....Donald Trump sometimes tweets mean stuff about people. Trump called Stormy Daniels "horseface" on Twitter, and this somehow affects the day-to-day life of these voters more than the fact that they have good jobs with rising incomes, or that Trump vows to try to protect their state from an illegal invasion from the south. Bravo, Arizona!
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 13, 2018 13:45:25 GMT -6
Marco Rubio ✔ @marcorubio #BrowardCounty & #PalmBeachCounty are headed towards being only counties to not make deadline for machine recount
Potentially deliberate effort to delay final count hoping a judge will order domestic vote by mail received after 7pm #ElectionDay counted, in violation of state law
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 13, 2018 13:49:08 GMT -6
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Post by soonerbounce13 on Nov 13, 2018 14:09:59 GMT -6
how is this possible? Has he not been convicted yet?
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 13, 2018 15:50:43 GMT -6
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Post by sooner98 on Nov 13, 2018 20:07:58 GMT -6
A message to Brenda Snipes and all local election supervisors: if you are a LOCAL ELECTION SUPERVISOR, and you are also a national household name, you are doing it wrong.
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 14, 2018 6:54:23 GMT -6
Democrat lawyers want to change Florida law to count votes. Rubio explains:
Marco Rubio ✔ @marcorubio For example, #Florida law requires that the voter signatures on mail ballots match the signature of the voter.
But Dem lawyers are asking a judge to throw that law out & force Florida to count ballots with signatures that don’t match the voter signature on file. 2/4
5,581 8:48 PM - Nov 13, 2018
Marco Rubio ✔ @marcorubio In short, Dem lawyers came to Florida to get judges to change Florida elections laws, AFTER the election. That isn’t a strategy to win an election, that is a strategy to steal an election. 4/4
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 14, 2018 7:04:04 GMT -6
In other words, we did not get the results we wanted, so we will do this again & again until we get the results we desire:
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Post by NN on Nov 14, 2018 8:48:34 GMT -6
Trump Flip Arizona Senate Seat BlueCongresswoman Kyrsten Sinema has officially captured a Republican-held Senate seat in Arizona. Sinema, who at 41 is one of the youngest women ever elected to the Senate, also happens to be the first Arizona Democrat elected to the Senate in over 30 years. The results, which took almost a full week to tabulate, will come as a disappointment to the president, who bragged the day after the election when Republican Martha McSally was still leading that he personally “retired” Republican Sen. Jeff Flake.“In Jeff Flake’s case it’s me, pure and simple. I retired him. I’m very proud of it, I did the country a great service,” Trump said during a press conference at the White House a day after the midterm elections. “He is retired. I’d like to call it another word, but we’re going to treat him with great respect.”Democrats are likely thrilled with whatever help the president believes he offered. Not only did they figure out the path to victory in Arizona two years before a special election set to fill a second Senate seat, Democrats defended the Congressional seat Sinema vacated and flipped the one McSally gave up, too. And they did it by winning the hearts and minds of a large share of registered Republicans. McSally and outside groups supporting her bid tried to paint Sinema as too extreme for Arizona, pointing to the former Green Party candidate’s protest of the Iraq war — in a pink tutu, no less — and her remark, to a radio host in 2003, that she wouldn’t care if he joined the Taliban. The gambit failed, hard: Sinema peeled off 12 percent of Arizona’s Republican voters — the highest share of any Democratic Senator, save West Virginia’s Joe Manchin. Sinema seems well aware of the fact. In her victory speech, she paid tribute to the late Republican senator (and Trump critic) John McCain. “Senator McCain is irreplaceable, but his example will guide our next steps,” Sinema told supporters Monday evening. “He taught us to assume the best in others, to seek compromise instead of sewing division, and to always put country ahead of party. As your Senator, that’s exactly what I’ll do.” Trump, who was reportedly disappointed that McSally refused to sow doubts about “fraud” in the days it took to count the outstanding ballots in Arizona, appears to have misjudged his sway with Arizona Republicans — as did Flake. Flake announced he was retiring from the Senate back in October 2017, telling Morning Joe that his brand of conservatism just didn’t appeal to enough Arizona Republicans. “The bottom line is if I were to run a campaign that I could be proud of and where I didn’t have to cozy up to the president and his positions or his behavior, I could not win in a Republican primary,” Flake said. “That’s the bottom line.” But McSally, by far the most moderate of the candidates competing, won the Republican primary decisively. She earned roughly double the number of votes as her closest rival, tea party conspiracist Kelli Ward, and triple the number of votes of presidential pardonee and former Maricopa County sheriff, Joe Arpaio. (Arpaio was convicted of contempt of court, a misdemeanor, in 2017 and pardoned by Trump less than one month later.)
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 14, 2018 9:17:29 GMT -6
Trump Flip Arizona Senate Seat BlueCongresswoman Kyrsten Sinema has officially captured a Republican-held Senate seat in Arizona. Sinema, who at 41 is one of the youngest women ever elected to the Senate, also happens to be the first Arizona Democrat elected to the Senate in over 30 years. The results, which took almost a full week to tabulate, will come as a disappointment to the president, who bragged the day after the election when Republican Martha McSally was still leading that he personally “retired” Republican Sen. Jeff Flake.“In Jeff Flake’s case it’s me, pure and simple. I retired him. I’m very proud of it, I did the country a great service,” Trump said during a press conference at the White House a day after the midterm elections. “He is retired. I’d like to call it another word, but we’re going to treat him with great respect.”Democrats are likely thrilled with whatever help the president believes he offered. Not only did they figure out the path to victory in Arizona two years before a special election set to fill a second Senate seat, Democrats defended the Congressional seat Sinema vacated and flipped the one McSally gave up, too. And they did it by winning the hearts and minds of a large share of registered Republicans. McSally and outside groups supporting her bid tried to paint Sinema as too extreme for Arizona, pointing to the former Green Party candidate’s protest of the Iraq war — in a pink tutu, no less — and her remark, to a radio host in 2003, that she wouldn’t care if he joined the Taliban. The gambit failed, hard: Sinema peeled off 12 percent of Arizona’s Republican voters — the highest share of any Democratic Senator, save West Virginia’s Joe Manchin. Sinema seems well aware of the fact. In her victory speech, she paid tribute to the late Republican senator (and Trump critic) John McCain. “Senator McCain is irreplaceable, but his example will guide our next steps,” Sinema told supporters Monday evening. “He taught us to assume the best in others, to seek compromise instead of sewing division, and to always put country ahead of party. As your Senator, that’s exactly what I’ll do.” Trump, who was reportedly disappointed that McSally refused to sow doubts about “fraud” in the days it took to count the outstanding ballots in Arizona, appears to have misjudged his sway with Arizona Republicans — as did Flake. Flake announced he was retiring from the Senate back in October 2017, telling Morning Joe that his brand of conservatism just didn’t appeal to enough Arizona Republicans. “The bottom line is if I were to run a campaign that I could be proud of and where I didn’t have to cozy up to the president and his positions or his behavior, I could not win in a Republican primary,” Flake said. “That’s the bottom line.” But McSally, by far the most moderate of the candidates competing, won the Republican primary decisively. She earned roughly double the number of votes as her closest rival, tea party conspiracist Kelli Ward, and triple the number of votes of presidential pardonee and former Maricopa County sheriff, Joe Arpaio. (Arpaio was convicted of contempt of court, a misdemeanor, in 2017 and pardoned by Trump less than one month later.) Trump didn’t flip that seat. What flipped it was the GOP candidate ran as a “moderate” and refused to embrace Trump’s agenda & refused to go on more conservative leaning radio shows. Lesson here is, the voters are tired of the RINOs and want those who embrace the President & his agenda of “America First”. They are willing to lose the House for two years to get the message across.
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 14, 2018 9:19:30 GMT -6
Matt Caldwell: We were up by 40,000 votes on Tuesday night. Based on what was reported there was only possibly 30,000 votes that could possibly still come in from Broward. So we declared victory, went to bed and over the next four days they found 80,000 ballots as you said.
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 14, 2018 9:44:19 GMT -6
dailycaller.com/2018/11/14/florida-recount-matt-schlapp/Chairman of the American Conservative Union, Matt Schlapp, said the ongoing Florida recount is just a “trial run” for Democrats to help prepare for a close race against President Donald Trump in 2020. “We’re going to spend a lot of time in court, we’re going to spend millions of dollars. We’re going to waste a lot of time. I believe at the end of this Gov. Rick Scott will be a senator. Ron DeSantis will be the governor,” Schlapp said on “Fox & Friends” Wednesday. “But what the Democrats are trying to do here, this is a trial run to figure out what they do in 2020 when Donald Trump is on the ballot.” “You watch. They are learning lessons so they can do everything possible to stop him in 2020.” Schlapp also said he’s concerned about the legitimacy of the recount process and claimed the counters involved have used unorthodox methods to get the job done.
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Post by NN on Nov 14, 2018 9:46:49 GMT -6
Trump Flip Arizona Senate Seat BlueCongresswoman Kyrsten Sinema has officially captured a Republican-held Senate seat in Arizona. Sinema, who at 41 is one of the youngest women ever elected to the Senate, also happens to be the first Arizona Democrat elected to the Senate in over 30 years. The results, which took almost a full week to tabulate, will come as a disappointment to the president, who bragged the day after the election when Republican Martha McSally was still leading that he personally “retired” Republican Sen. Jeff Flake.“In Jeff Flake’s case it’s me, pure and simple. I retired him. I’m very proud of it, I did the country a great service,” Trump said during a press conference at the White House a day after the midterm elections. “He is retired. I’d like to call it another word, but we’re going to treat him with great respect.”Democrats are likely thrilled with whatever help the president believes he offered. Not only did they figure out the path to victory in Arizona two years before a special election set to fill a second Senate seat, Democrats defended the Congressional seat Sinema vacated and flipped the one McSally gave up, too. And they did it by winning the hearts and minds of a large share of registered Republicans. McSally and outside groups supporting her bid tried to paint Sinema as too extreme for Arizona, pointing to the former Green Party candidate’s protest of the Iraq war — in a pink tutu, no less — and her remark, to a radio host in 2003, that she wouldn’t care if he joined the Taliban. The gambit failed, hard: Sinema peeled off 12 percent of Arizona’s Republican voters — the highest share of any Democratic Senator, save West Virginia’s Joe Manchin. Sinema seems well aware of the fact. In her victory speech, she paid tribute to the late Republican senator (and Trump critic) John McCain. “Senator McCain is irreplaceable, but his example will guide our next steps,” Sinema told supporters Monday evening. “He taught us to assume the best in others, to seek compromise instead of sewing division, and to always put country ahead of party. As your Senator, that’s exactly what I’ll do.” Trump, who was reportedly disappointed that McSally refused to sow doubts about “fraud” in the days it took to count the outstanding ballots in Arizona, appears to have misjudged his sway with Arizona Republicans — as did Flake. Flake announced he was retiring from the Senate back in October 2017, telling Morning Joe that his brand of conservatism just didn’t appeal to enough Arizona Republicans. “The bottom line is if I were to run a campaign that I could be proud of and where I didn’t have to cozy up to the president and his positions or his behavior, I could not win in a Republican primary,” Flake said. “That’s the bottom line.” But McSally, by far the most moderate of the candidates competing, won the Republican primary decisively. She earned roughly double the number of votes as her closest rival, tea party conspiracist Kelli Ward, and triple the number of votes of presidential pardonee and former Maricopa County sheriff, Joe Arpaio. (Arpaio was convicted of contempt of court, a misdemeanor, in 2017 and pardoned by Trump less than one month later.) Trump didn’t flip that seat. What flipped it was the GOP candidate ran as a “moderate” and refused to embrace Trump’s agenda & refused to go on more conservative leaning radio shows. Lesson here is, the voters are tired of the RINOs and want those who embrace the President & his agenda of “America First”. They are willing to lose the House for two years to get the message across. LOL, whatever, so the same voters that would have embraced a more Trumpee candidate just said fuck the Vet Army helo pilot pub in favor of the lesbian socialist? And by the way, hers was a senate seat, 6 years.
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Post by kcrufnek on Nov 14, 2018 11:59:40 GMT -6
dailycaller.com/2018/11/14/florida-recount-matt-schlapp/Chairman of the American Conservative Union, Matt Schlapp, said the ongoing Florida recount is just a “trial run” for Democrats to help prepare for a close race against President Donald Trump in 2020. “We’re going to spend a lot of time in court, we’re going to spend millions of dollars. We’re going to waste a lot of time. I believe at the end of this Gov. Rick Scott will be a senator. Ron DeSantis will be the governor,” Schlapp said on “Fox & Friends” Wednesday. “But what the Democrats are trying to do here, this is a trial run to figure out what they do in 2020 when Donald Trump is on the ballot.” “You watch. They are learning lessons so they can do everything possible to stop him in 2020.” Schlapp also said he’s concerned about the legitimacy of the recount process and claimed the counters involved have used unorthodox methods to get the job done. Trial runs just like the terrorists do.
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 14, 2018 12:34:46 GMT -6
Trump didn’t flip that seat. What flipped it was the GOP candidate ran as a “moderate” and refused to embrace Trump’s agenda & refused to go on more conservative leaning radio shows. Lesson here is, the voters are tired of the RINOs and want those who embrace the President & his agenda of “America First”. They are willing to lose the House for two years to get the message across. LOL, whatever, so the same voters that would have embraced a more Trumpee candidate just said fuck the Vet Army helo pilot pub in favor of the lesbian socialist? And by the way, hers was a senate seat, 6 years. Given it was Flake’s seat, means it didn’t change anything in regards to Trump. But yes, it was reported in this thread the results of this who supported Trump vs those who didn’t, but don’t let that stop you now.
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 14, 2018 12:39:41 GMT -6
Federal prosecutors in Florida are reviewing date changes on forms used to fix vote-by-mail ballots. Feds discovered the dates were altered by the Florida Democrat party in four different counties, including Broward. “Cure affidavits” are due by 5 PM the day before the election, however prosecutors have discovered these altered documents show the ballots could be turned in on Thursday, one day after the election. www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2018/11/13/federal-prosecutors-reviewing-altered-election-documents-tied-to-florida-democrats-695299The dates on the cure affidavits were also altered in Okaloosa County and the elections supervisor said the email he received included a person from the Florida Democrat party.
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Post by principledcon on Nov 14, 2018 13:05:51 GMT -6
Liberal Cali Pub McCarthy elected minority leader in the house...this is going backwards...we will never change things through voting if he gets to lead Pubs as a liberal Dem basically...
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Post by kcrufnek on Nov 14, 2018 14:31:18 GMT -6
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Post by kcrufnek on Nov 14, 2018 14:32:10 GMT -6
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Post by sooner98 on Nov 14, 2018 16:01:03 GMT -6
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Post by oilsooner on Nov 14, 2018 18:15:48 GMT -6
Seems legit...
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Post by jimmy on Nov 14, 2018 18:39:04 GMT -6
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Post by oilsooner on Nov 14, 2018 18:42:41 GMT -6
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Post by kcrufnek on Nov 14, 2018 20:49:00 GMT -6
Yeah. Right.
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Post by NN on Nov 15, 2018 8:22:44 GMT -6
LOL, whatever, so the same voters that would have embraced a more Trumpee candidate just said fuck the Vet Army helo pilot pub in favor of the lesbian socialist? And by the way, hers was a senate seat, 6 years. Given it was Flake’s seat, means it didn’t change anything in regards to Trump. But yes, it was reported in this thread the results of this who supported Trump vs those who didn’t, but don’t let that stop you now. Matt Rosendale says hi.
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 15, 2018 9:44:24 GMT -6
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 15, 2018 9:55:03 GMT -6
Studies prove what many said previously: thefederalist.com/2018/11/15/obamacares-medicaid-expansion-bought-democrats-votes/Studies Indicate Obamacare’s Medicaid Expansion Bought Democrats Votes Giving people government health subsidies increases their voting registration, turnout, and likelihood of voting Democrat, says a New York Times article about three recent studies plus midterm results. Joy Pullmann By Joy Pullmann NOVEMBER 15, 2018 Forcing taxpayers to subsidize people’s health insurance increases the recipients’ voting registration, turnout, and likelihood of voting Democrat, says a New York Times article covering three recent studies. Among childless adults allowed to tap into Medicaid in Oregon in 2008, voter turnout subsequently increased 7 percent. Another study found 3 to 4 point higher voter registration in counties that expanded Medicaid. While the Times said it’s impossible to know the overall political effects for sure, “the people eligible for Medicaid expansion tend to be poor, single adults, a demographic more likely to be Democratic-leaning. And the Oregon study showed bigger voting effects in more heavily Democratic parts of the state.” The effect fades after the election directly following an expansion of government redistribution, which provides yet another reason beyond ideology Democrats are so keen to keep increasing our welfare state. The Times’ report suggests some utterly clueless potential explanations for this effect. Since healthier and wealthier people are more likely to vote, goes one, by making people more healthy and wealthy, perhaps Medicaid also makes them more likely to vote! Yet Medicaid leads to inferior health outcomes. Medicaid also has a higher proportion of people with heath problems that are the result of lifestyle choices rather than genetics or accident. Just ask a doctor how likely it is that his Medicaid patients smoke compared to his middle-class patients, or to compare the rates of soda and junk food intake between the two. So no, new Medicaid patients aren’t likely to be suddenly voting more because they’re more healthy and wealthy. Or perhaps, the Times suggests, new Medicaid recipients simply vote in higher numbers because getting Medicaid put them in greater contact with government. If that were probable, getting busted for speeding or attending public school ought to also make you more likely to vote, but neither is true (private school graduates are more civically engaged). “Medicaid might also boost civic engagement by making people more grateful to the government and more interested in public policy,” is the Times’s final suggestion. After all, it worked with Social Security. “Civic engagement” is the most Pollyanna-esque way ever to frame voting yourself other people’s money. It’s so blindingly optimistic it’s a flat-out denial of reality. Without the need for studies, political scientists all the way back at least to ancient Rome’s bread and circuses knew that vote-buying works. This is just human nature. If you promise Peter you are going to use the government’s police power to rob Paul and give Peter a cut, Peter’s more likely to vote for you. As the aphorism attributed to Benjamin Franklin observes, “Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for dinner.” The attribution may be false, but the observation is true. In an 1858 debate with Stephen Douglas, Abraham Lincoln called this dynamic an “eternal struggle” between “two principles”: “The one is the common right of humanity and the other the divine right of kings. It is the same principle in whatever shape it develops itself. It is the same spirit that says, ‘You work and toil and earn bread, and I’ll eat it.’ No matter in what shape it comes, whether from the mouth of a king who seeks to bestride the people of his own nation and live by the fruit of their labor, or from one race of men as an apology for enslaving another race, it is the same tyrannical principle.” Quite simply, it is wrong to vote for government to take money from a person who worked for it so another person can get it without working for it. It is also wrong for Medicaid to encourage people not to work full time because if they do that at just above the federal minimum wage they lose Medicaid subsidies. This program is a double whammy: it both implicitly and explicitly discourages recipients from supporting themselves. Yet every non-disabled American adult can in fact do just that. We don’t live in Venezuela. Thanks to our relatively free economic system, essentially nobody who works full time and saves baby-making for after marriage is poor. These are choices. Unless you are badly disabled — an obvious exception nobody disagrees about from any side of the political table — you can choose to work full time until old age, and not only support yourself but fund your own retirement. Despite what Planned Parenthood tells you, you also can choose to not have sex until marriage. Therefore, in the United States of America, every single able-bodied person has the ability to generate enough wealth to support himself. Nobody in this country needs to use government to steal money from the responsible people to pay for their irresponsible choices. Nor should they. Those who say people should not be required to take responsibility for their choices should take a long hard look into the homes of America that are increasingly populated with father-deprived children, and consider whether subsidizing poverty, as with subsidizing all else, in fact creates more of it. They should look at Americans’ empty retirement accounts and consider whether discouraging thrift and self-reliance has helped enable our nation’s impending bankruptcy, cheating the next several generations out of proper government services such as national defense and well-maintained infrastructure. If they do so and conclude that it’s worth lying about all this to Americans to get themselves political power, the rest of us should run them out of polite society as heartless moral cretins.
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 15, 2018 14:04:35 GMT -6
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 15, 2018 18:13:23 GMT -6
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