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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 7, 2018 5:21:55 GMT -6
dailycaller.com/2018/11/06/cnn-van-jones-election-results-heartbreaking/CNN political commentator Van Jones called the midterm election results “heartbreaking” on Tuesday night as Republicans won two key U.S. Senate seats. Republican Tennessee Rep. Marsha Blackburn is projected to win her Senate race against Democrat Phil Bredesen while Republican Mike Braun ousted Democratic incumbent Sen. Joe Donnelly in Indiana. “This is heartbreaking,” Jones said. “It’s heartbreaking. The hope has been that antibodies would kick in. That this sort of infestation of hatred and division would draw a response from the American people, really in both parties, to say, ‘no.'” “That does not seem to be happening tonight,” Jones admitted. “It’s not a blue wave but it’s still a blue war. We’ve gotta continue the fight forward.” CNN anchor Jake Tapper admitted earlier in the evening that the midterm results were not turning out to be the “blue wave” that Democrats were hoping for. “It is entirely possible that Democrats will regain control of the House but, I have to say, when you look at what’s going on here tonight, this is not a blue wave,” Tapper said.
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 7, 2018 5:28:09 GMT -6
www.dailywire.com/news/38058/tonight-feeling-horrifyingly-familiar-media-ryan-saavedraMany mainstream media personalities and analysts expressed their surprise or disappointment with the results of the 2018 midterm elections as the "blue wave" they were hoping for did not materialize. Here is the reaction of mainstream media figures: CNN's Jake Tapper: "A lot of the Republicans who were critics of President Trump...they are being defeated." CNN's Jake Tapper: "When you look at what is going on here tonight, this is not a blue wave." CNN's Dana Bash: Democrats have suffered “big heartbreaks” in 2018 midterm election. CNN contributor Peter Beinart: "tonight is feeling horrifyingly familiar"
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Post by principledcon on Nov 7, 2018 5:45:50 GMT -6
establishment Pub Russell (votes anti-American 42%) lost to a marxist/socialist Dem in Oklahoma...the liberal Pubs Cole (votes anti-American 64%) and Lucas (votes anti-American 61%) won...establishment Pub Mullin (votes anti-American 37%) won...so proud to be an Oklahoman where we talk a big conservative game but certainly are not in action... (* % = percent of liberal anti-American votes) www.conservativereview.com/scorecard/ |
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Post by principledcon on Nov 7, 2018 5:55:16 GMT -6
Pubs are acting like its a victory nationally...they lost the house to despicable anti-Americans...how is that a victory?
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Post by hermit on Nov 7, 2018 6:04:27 GMT -6
He was not a good candidate.
And Oklahoma County, especially the downtown districts, are blue now.
We have a growing contingent of tax and spend Dems, and expect govt to give them free shit.
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Post by principledcon on Nov 7, 2018 6:11:26 GMT -6
Pubs better work until the end of the year passing bills because nothing will happen the next 2 years...hell the senate didn't do much the last 2 years with McConnell...
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Post by hermit on Nov 7, 2018 6:31:43 GMT -6
Pubs better work until the end of the year passing bills because nothing will happen the next 2 years...hell the senate didn't do much the last 2 years with McConnell... Gridlock, and the markets like gridlock, it provides certainty.
Nothing will get done on illegal immigration, but odds were good that nothing would've happened anyway.
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Post by kcrufnek on Nov 7, 2018 6:51:04 GMT -6
While discussing the races involving Gillum and Abrams the angry woman on CNN was losing her mind over the racism displayed by the president and the 2 opponents. She was allowed to go on unchecked for as long as she felt like it. I expect this to be the subject du jour even more. Funny she had nothing to say about John James losing in Michigan.
And fucking Gavin Newsom won. He's worse than Brown.
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 7, 2018 7:12:59 GMT -6
www.breitbart.com/midterm-election/2018/11/06/trumps-republicans-beat-historical-average-for-midterm-elections/959 Republicans were disappointed to lose the House of Representatives to Democrats on Tuesday. But they gained several seats in the Senate. Overall the GOP out-performed the historical average for the president’s party. As a recent analysis of historical trends in midterm elections noted: “Over the past 28 midterm elections since 1906, the president’s party lost about 30 House seats and 4 Senate seats on average.” President Donald Trump’s Republican Party was projected to lose between 25 and 35 seats as of 1:00 a.m. EST on Wednesday — right around the historical average. Moreover, Trump and the GOP were projected to gain at least four seats in the Senate — defying history. The fact that Republicans did so well in the Senate is partly a geographical quirk: the party only had eight of its own seats at stake in the midterm elections, while Democrats had 25 (including left-wing independents). However, the Democrats may well have hung onto their seats had they not chosen to attack Justice Brett Kavanaugh. As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics noted, almost all of the Democrat Senators in competitive races who voted against Kavanaugh lost on Tuesday, while the one who voted for Kavanaugh — Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) — won. Notably, Trump focused his energies on the Senate, campaigning in key states in the closing weeks of the election. He found it more difficult to help House candidates, many of whom kept their distance from him in suburban areas — perhaps a strategic mistake on their part, since candidates who chose to embrace the president tended to win. The only years in which the president’s party has gained net seats in Congress in midterm elections since 1906 have been in 1934 (during the New Deal), 1998 (during the Clinton impeachment), and 2002 (after the 9/11 attacks).
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Post by kcrufnek on Nov 7, 2018 7:19:39 GMT -6
I miss this guy.
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 7, 2018 7:21:29 GMT -6
Pubs are acting like its a victory nationally...they lost the house to despicable anti-Americans...how is that a victory? I view it as this: the voters are giving the Democrats a second chance by giving them the small majority for the House,(they tend to historically seek balance in the government as the President’s party historically always loses seats). They are wanting the Democrats to stop the mob tactics and work with both the Republicans & the President to get his agenda accomplished. To further prove this point, they increased the lead of the Republicans in the Senate,(which essentially RINO proofs the Senate and guarantees Trump’s SCOTUS picks are in. Also defies historical averages). If the Democrats follow through on their threats of non stop investigations, and gridlock both the government & the economy, then they will pay a heavy price in 2020. |
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 7, 2018 8:42:00 GMT -6
Good question:
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 7, 2018 8:46:24 GMT -6
www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/obama-63-truman-55-clinton-54-have-biggest-midterm-house-losses-wwii(CNSNews.com) -In the post-World War II era, Presidents Barack Obama, Harry Truman and Bill Clinton saw the three biggest midterm election losses for their party in the House of Representatives, according to historical data published by the Clerk of the House. In 2010, when Obama was in his first term and had signed the Obamacare law, the Democrats lost a net of 63 House seats. In 1946, after Truman had succeeded the late Franklin Roosevelt (who died in April 1945) and real GDP was declining by 11.6 percent, the Democrats lost 55 seats. In 1994, when Clinton was in his first term in which his signature proposal was Hillarycare (a “universal healthcare plan"), the Democrats lost 54 seats. These losses exceeded the 48 seats the Republicans lost in the 1974 midterm, which took place three months after President Richard Nixon resigned because of the Watergate scandal and in a year when real GDP contracted by 0.5 percent. When Dwight Eisenhower was president in 1958 and the economy contracted by 0.7 percent, the Republicans also lost 48 seats. This chart ranks the 18 midterm elections since World War II by the number of House seats lost by the incumbent president's party:
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 7, 2018 10:02:07 GMT -6
He’ll be an improvement over the failed RINO,(who helped to lose the House): thehill.com/hilltv/election-2018/415464-house-gop-fight-begins-jordan-challenges-mccarthyConservative Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) announced his bid for House minority leader on Wednesday, challenging Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) hours after Democrats regained control of the lower chamber. “I plan to run for minority leader,” Jordan told Hill.TV’s Buck Sexton on “Rising.” “In 2016, the American people elected Republicans to come here and change this town. I think the president is doing just that, but I don’t think they see the same intensity from folks in Congress, folks in the House of Representatives,” he continued. “Have we replaced ObamaCare yet? Have we secured the border yet? Have we reformed welfare yet? No,” he said. Jordan went on to slam current GOP leadership in the House, saying they were not willing to engage in debate with Democrats.
“Now that we’re in the minority, that’s about all what we can do is debate, but fight hard in the debate for the principles, for the things that we know the American people sent us here to do in 2016. Show them that we deserve to be back in power in 2020,” he said.
Jordan’s comments come hours after he won his re-election bid in Ohio’s 4th congressional district against Democrat Janet Garrett. |
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Post by oilsooner on Nov 7, 2018 10:25:32 GMT -6
Pubs are acting like its a victory nationally...they lost the house to despicable anti-Americans...how is that a victory? I view it as this: the voters are giving the Democrats a second chance by giving them the small majority for the House,(they tend to historically seek balance in the government as the President’s party historically always loses seats). They are wanting the Democrats to stop the mob tactics and work with both the Republicans & the President to get his agenda accomplished. To further prove this point, they increased the lead of the Republicans in the Senate,(which essentially RINO proofs the Senate and guarantees Trump’s SCOTUS picks are in. Also defies historical averages). If the Democrats follow through on their threats of non stop investigations, and gridlock both the government & the economy, then they will pay a heavy price in 2020. I agree they will be watched for how obstructionist they become in the House....and I am sure they will be as obstructionist as absolutely possible, and they will be as vocal about it as absolutely possible. This is the ONE thing they have to hang their hat on and show party-line Dems that they will do what they claim they will do once they get power. I still think they will impeach Trump (which will then be rejected by the Senate), and they will use committees to get Trump's private tax returns and release them publicly, and they will investigate DTJ and everyone else already cited in the Russia probe in an attempt to further anger Trump and to use the power of the government to expose people's private information for political gain (their specialty). I think this will ultimately backfire (especially the impeachment), which will allow pubs to re-assume control of the House and maintain the Senate and Presidency in 2020. All in all, it was a good night last night. If Cruz would have lost, it probably would have tilted the night to the Dems, as they would really have a statement win to hang on the wall. As it is, they got the lower chamber of Congress, and while not ideal, its the position they can cause the least damage from. And, it was expected, so I am sure Trump and Co were prepared for this eventuality. Probably the biggest surprise of the night for me was how far blue Texas is moving. This is one thing Oklahoma definately has over Texas, as we have stayed red. But, outside money and the constant influx of illegals is moving Texas toward becoming another California or New York. On our border, no less. Texas pubs had better get this shit together, and in a hurry, or they will lose their state (and their money) to the regressives. I see this as a very real danger over the next couple of cycles, because the dems smell blood in the water after the Cruz race and the flipping of two House seats. |
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 7, 2018 10:29:48 GMT -6
amp.dailycaller.com/2018/11/07/joe-scarborough-bigoted-trump-midtermsMSNBC host Joe Scarborough accused voters of supporting an “overtly bigoted” and racist President Donald Trump after the blue wave Democrats were hoping for failed to materialize. “We’ve talked about Democrats obviously getting the big prize last night for them. … There’s a lot for Democrats to be excited about — not quite as much for Republicans because I think most people thought they were going to maintain the Senate. But still, they won some really big races,” Scarborough said on “Morning Joe” Wednesday. “But I’ve just got to say, I think we all have to be really honest this morning,” he said. “A lot of Americans decided to go out and vote, we saw it there — to support a man who spent the last month of the campaign not making subtle appeals to racism, but making overtly bigoted racist statements, attacking brown people, attacking black people, attacking people who were the others.” Scarborough also said Trump lied about “everything” leading up to the election and wondered how average voters could convince themselves to vote for someone connected to white nationalism. “And you could look at the lies. Again, this is — what was he lying about? The answer? Everything,” Scarborough said, adding: “And I do sit here this morning and I do wonder: How do you exactly square that in your mind that you went out specifically to support a guy that gained the praise of David Duke, that gained the praise of white nationalists?”
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Post by sooner98 on Nov 7, 2018 10:32:57 GMT -6
Fun fact: every politician who has been James O'Keefed within the last month, lost last night.
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Post by soonernvolved on Nov 7, 2018 10:33:04 GMT -6
www.dailywire.com/news/38060/dem-governor-candidate-stacey-abrams-doesnt-frank-camp?ampDem Governor Candidate Stacey Abrams Doesn’t Concede, Talks Of A ‘Do-Over’ by Frank Camp November 7, 2018 Early Wednesday morning, Georgia’s Democratic gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams refused to concede to Republican challenger Brian Kemp. "Votes remain to be counted. There are voices that were waiting to be heard," Abrams said before a crowd of supporters. "Across our state, folks are opening up the dreams of voters in absentee ballots and we believe our chance for a stronger Georgia is just within reach. But we cannot seize it until all voices are heard. And I promise you tonight we are going to make sure that every vote is counted – every single vote." She continued: This election has tested our faith. I’m not gonna name names, but some have worked hard to take our voices away, to scare us away, to distract us, but our vision is clear and we see the finish line... If I wasn’t your first choice, or if you made no choice at all, you’re gonna have a chance to do a do-over. I need you to know that it is my mission to serve you, to serve Georgia, to make you proud, and for those who didn’t pick me the first time, to change your mind about me and what we can accomplish together. You see, I learned a long time we don’t need to agree on everything, but I will always respect you, and I will do everything I can to keep you safe and help you live your best lives because that’s what leadership requires at this moment, and it is how we breathe life back into our republic when it seems to be shallow of breath.
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Post by oilsooner on Nov 7, 2018 10:46:56 GMT -6
Fun fact: every politician who has been James O'Keefed within the last month, lost last night. Everyone Obama campaigned for lost as well, right? I'd say we did pretty well last night, and there is little for the Dems to crow about this morning...which is most evident by how quiet they are today. If they had won anything worth talking about, they would be shouting it from the rooftops. r/politics, which usually cominated Reddit's r/All with everything anti Trump you could imagine, is like 20 links down on r/All and the next story is like 20 below that. r/Politics is basically a few people trying to spin last nights gains as a big night wherein the pubs won a bunch of meaningless Senate seats while the Dems gained control of the House to begin coming at Trump and show the people that what they claim about him is true (a flawed strategy from the get go, but whatever). A Blue Wave? If so, it wasnt even a white cap. |
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Post by soonerbounce13 on Nov 7, 2018 11:17:11 GMT -6
amp.dailycaller.com/2018/11/07/joe-scarborough-bigoted-trump-midtermsMSNBC host Joe Scarborough accused voters of supporting an “overtly bigoted” and racist President Donald Trump after the blue wave Democrats were hoping for failed to materialize. “We’ve talked about Democrats obviously getting the big prize last night for them. … There’s a lot for Democrats to be excited about — not quite as much for Republicans because I think most people thought they were going to maintain the Senate. But still, they won some really big races,” Scarborough said on “Morning Joe” Wednesday. “But I’ve just got to say, I think we all have to be really honest this morning,” he said. “A lot of Americans decided to go out and vote, we saw it there — to support a man who spent the last month of the campaign not making subtle appeals to racism, but making overtly bigoted racist statements, attacking brown people, attacking black people, attacking people who were the others.” Scarborough also said Trump lied about “everything” leading up to the election and wondered how average voters could convince themselves to vote for someone connected to white nationalism. “And you could look at the lies. Again, this is — what was he lying about? The answer? Everything,” Scarborough said, adding: “And I do sit here this morning and I do wonder: How do you exactly square that in your mind that you went out specifically to support a guy that gained the praise of David Duke, that gained the praise of white nationalists?” Does he honestly think that if a group of people support a candidate, that makes the candidate associated with that group of people? |
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Post by oilsooner on Nov 7, 2018 11:28:28 GMT -6
amp.dailycaller.com/2018/11/07/joe-scarborough-bigoted-trump-midtermsMSNBC host Joe Scarborough accused voters of supporting an “overtly bigoted” and racist President Donald Trump after the blue wave Democrats were hoping for failed to materialize. “We’ve talked about Democrats obviously getting the big prize last night for them. … There’s a lot for Democrats to be excited about — not quite as much for Republicans because I think most people thought they were going to maintain the Senate. But still, they won some really big races,” Scarborough said on “Morning Joe” Wednesday. “But I’ve just got to say, I think we all have to be really honest this morning,” he said. “A lot of Americans decided to go out and vote, we saw it there — to support a man who spent the last month of the campaign not making subtle appeals to racism, but making overtly bigoted racist statements, attacking brown people, attacking black people, attacking people who were the others.” Scarborough also said Trump lied about “everything” leading up to the election and wondered how average voters could convince themselves to vote for someone connected to white nationalism. “And you could look at the lies. Again, this is — what was he lying about? The answer? Everything,” Scarborough said, adding: “And I do sit here this morning and I do wonder: How do you exactly square that in your mind that you went out specifically to support a guy that gained the praise of David Duke, that gained the praise of white nationalists?” Does he honestly think that if a group of people support a candidate, that makes the candidate associated with that group of people? He goes further than that...if he can frame Trumps comments as racist, and if he can back that by showing that some racist people vote for Trump, all people who vote for Trump or his endorsed candidates are now racists. Its the most absurd reasoning this side of his (and the left's) failure to realize what a bad strategy that is, as evidenced by the very results he is looking to spin with this faulty logic. Its a circular mess that they cant see beyond. And it is mind boggling. |
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Post by sooner98 on Nov 7, 2018 11:31:23 GMT -6
Fun fact: every politician who has been James O'Keefed within the last month, lost last night. Everyone Obama campaigned for lost as well, right? I'd say we did pretty well last night, and there is little for the Dems to crow about this morning...which is most evident by how quiet they are today. If they had won anything worth talking about, they would be shouting it from the rooftops. r/politics, which usually cominated Reddit's r/All with everything anti Trump you could imagine, is like 20 links down on r/All and the next story is like 20 below that. r/Politics is basically a few people trying to spin last nights gains as a big night wherein the pubs won a bunch of meaningless Senate seats while the Dems gained control of the House to begin coming at Trump and show the people that what they claim about him is true (a flawed strategy from the get go, but whatever). A Blue Wave? If so, it wasnt even a white cap. He campaigned for Rosen in Nevada, who ended up beating Heller. I'm wondering if what happened last night wasn't the best-case long-term scenario for the president, and therefore, for the country. Sure, it stings a little to "lose" any election, but this will shine a spotlight on the Party of Insanity, and many more voters who haven't been utterly repulsed by them up until now, will be repulsed between now and 2020. Their voting base demands that their elected leaders do nothing resembling compromise or bi-partisanship, but rather they demand investigations, destruction, and misery for their opponents (and for the country). This wouldn't have happened if the GOP had maintained the House. Now that the Dems have grabbed a little bit of actual power, the country will get a sneak preview of what happens when you give these lunatics total power. Probably nothing gets done legislatively for two years, but the Senate will now be able to fast-track any court nominees (this is huge), without having to worry about what Collins/Murkowski/Flake are going to do, and Trumps re-election chances will be greater, I feel. |
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Post by oilsooner on Nov 7, 2018 11:40:28 GMT -6
Everyone Obama campaigned for lost as well, right? I'd say we did pretty well last night, and there is little for the Dems to crow about this morning...which is most evident by how quiet they are today. If they had won anything worth talking about, they would be shouting it from the rooftops. r/politics, which usually cominated Reddit's r/All with everything anti Trump you could imagine, is like 20 links down on r/All and the next story is like 20 below that. r/Politics is basically a few people trying to spin last nights gains as a big night wherein the pubs won a bunch of meaningless Senate seats while the Dems gained control of the House to begin coming at Trump and show the people that what they claim about him is true (a flawed strategy from the get go, but whatever). A Blue Wave? If so, it wasnt even a white cap. He campaigned for Rosen in Nevada, who ended up beating Heller. I'm wondering if what happened last night wasn't the best-case long-term scenario for the president, and therefore, for the country. Sure, it stings a little to "lose" any election, but this will shine a spotlight on the Party of Insanity, and many more voters who haven't been utterly repulsed by them up until now, will be repulsed between now and 2020. Their voting base demands that their elected leaders do nothing resembling compromise or bi-partisanship, but rather they demand investigations, destruction, and misery for their opponents (and for the country). This wouldn't have happened if the GOP had maintained the House. Now that the Dems have grabbed a little bit of actual power, the country will get a sneak preview of what happens when you give these lunatics total power. Probably nothing gets done legislatively for two years, but the Senate will now be able to fast-track any court nominees (this is huge), without having to worry about what Collins/Murkowski/Flake are going to do, and Trumps re-election chances will be greater, I feel. Agreed. I do think there will be some headache as Trump looks to cross party lines to get some things done. I do think he's gonna try to trade citizenship for dreamers for wall funding. Will it work? Probably not. But, GOP members will shit when he puts it on the table. He will probably look for other ways to give up what some pubs consider sacred in an attempt to get stuff passed. But I think ultimately what you are saying is where we are headed. There wont be much actual legislation passed the next two years (which is exactly what the dems want), and now that they are no longer completely on the outside looking in, they will use what little actual committee power they have to "expose" Trump and Co, which will be seen by the right as using the powers of the government to tap into personal information about their opposition. The only big factor we dont have enough info on is Mueller. If Mueller hits Trump with OOJ (I think its very possible), the House will go apeshit with every investigation they can muster. If Mueller says no OOJ, they will still investigate, but much more selectively. I honestly think Trump-Russia collusion is off the table, and while Mueller will hint at it to give the House Dems fodder to chase, that will be pretty much DOA after Meuller presents his finding to the DOJ. |
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Post by stinger1066 on Nov 7, 2018 12:01:58 GMT -6
He was not a good candidate.
And Oklahoma County, especially the downtown districts, are blue now.
We have a growing contingent of tax and spend Dems, and expect govt to give them free shit.
Not a good candidate? He was good enough to have trounced his Democratic challenger by over 20% in each of his first two elections, one of which was only 2 years ago. The PVI is R+10. Republicans have held the seat since 1975. The demographics of District 5 have not changed that much in only 2 years. He must have done something to piss off his Republican support, or to invigorate the Dems to get out and vote against him. |
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Post by stinger1066 on Nov 7, 2018 12:06:37 GMT -6
Everyone Obama campaigned for lost as well, right? I'd say we did pretty well last night, and there is little for the Dems to crow about this morning...which is most evident by how quiet they are today. If they had won anything worth talking about, they would be shouting it from the rooftops. r/politics, which usually cominated Reddit's r/All with everything anti Trump you could imagine, is like 20 links down on r/All and the next story is like 20 below that. r/Politics is basically a few people trying to spin last nights gains as a big night wherein the pubs won a bunch of meaningless Senate seats while the Dems gained control of the House to begin coming at Trump and show the people that what they claim about him is true (a flawed strategy from the get go, but whatever). A Blue Wave? If so, it wasnt even a white cap. He campaigned for Rosen in Nevada, who ended up beating Heller. I'm wondering if what happened last night wasn't the best-case long-term scenario for the president, and therefore, for the country. Sure, it stings a little to "lose" any election, but this will shine a spotlight on the Party of Insanity, and many more voters who haven't been utterly repulsed by them up until now, will be repulsed between now and 2020. Their voting base demands that their elected leaders do nothing resembling compromise or bi-partisanship, but rather they demand investigations, destruction, and misery for their opponents (and for the country). This wouldn't have happened if the GOP had maintained the House. Now that the Dems have grabbed a little bit of actual power, the country will get a sneak preview of what happens when you give these lunatics total power. Probably nothing gets done legislatively for two years, but the Senate will now be able to fast-track any court nominees (this is huge), without having to worry about what Collins/Murkowski/Flake are going to do, and Trumps re-election chances will be greater, I feel. I think you're on the right track. If / when Trump runs again in 2020, a lot of those seats will swing back to the R side, and then some. The Pubs could end up in 2021 with a larger majority than they have this session. |
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Post by hermit on Nov 7, 2018 12:12:31 GMT -6
He was not a good candidate.
And Oklahoma County, especially the downtown districts, are blue now.
We have a growing contingent of tax and spend Dems, and expect govt to give them free shit.
Not a good candidate? He was good enough to have trounced his Democratic challenger by over 20% in each of his first two elections, one of which was only 2 years ago. The PVI is R+10. Republicans have held the seat since 1975. The demographics of District 5 have not changed that much in only 2 years. He must have done something to piss off his Republican support. He did not work at it, the gist of what I read is he took it for granted that he would win, instead of campaigning hard , he claimed to be spending time in DC. I think I read that in a story at Oklahoma Watch. And I noticed that I saw very little of him until the last two weeks of the campaign.
And maybe he's not drawn a strong opponent in the past, hell, I can't remember last week, much less the 5th District campaign two or four years ago.
And according to Scott Mitchell on News9 app last night, the demographics have changed. He said Oklahoma County is now blue.
You gotta admit, the Bernie Sanders phenomenon was not even thought of two years ago. We're seeing candidates openly admit to being socialist and either winning or coming close to winning , all across the nation. The Dem for Gov Florida , Gillum, said he was an avowed socialist.
People are finding out they can vote themselves free stuff and they like the idea of it.
And those downtown kewl districts have changed just over the last two years, been a lot of people moving to live down there. Midtown has grown exponentially , among others. Just look at the new apartments in Midtown and over by Deep Deuce . It changed fast.
All ya gotta do , is go here and look at the precincts that Horn won, it becomes obvious what happened, at least to me
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Post by hermit on Nov 7, 2018 13:21:08 GMT -6
I was just looking at precinct 204, which is Deep Deuce 1072 Horn 420 Russell And its like that in all those downtown districts, she not only won, but she won big South of the River, in the Hispanic part of town, Horn won big but the turnout was a lot lower, like 500 to 600 total votes per precinct. But I still wonder how we got such a large Hispanic population in a relatively short period of time, just the last 20 years that part of OKC has entirely changed. Here's an Oklahoma County numbered precinct map. csa.ou.edu/redistricting/Oklahoma/Maps/pc109.pdfHorn called the Tax Reform Act , the Tax Reform Scam. She said it benefited only the corporations and wealthy. I guess never mind, the booming economy which the tax reform act is large part of , along with greatly increased capex spending by corporations. And I guess that jump in take home pay last February after the withholding tables were adjusted, was " crumbs " . Horn wants to make college more affordable, which I guess free is where she's headed. And she spoke of forgiving student loans. She also wanted to improve education ( like who doesn't ) but I question what can be done , or should be done from the Federal level. She just wanted the teacher vote. I think it should go the other way, be more of a local issue and partly state issue. |
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Post by principledcon on Nov 7, 2018 15:58:31 GMT -6
Pubs are acting like its a victory nationally...they lost the house to despicable anti-Americans...how is that a victory? I view it as this: the voters are giving the Democrats a second chance by giving them the small majority for the House,(they tend to historically seek balance in the government as the President’s party historically always loses seats). They are wanting the Democrats to stop the mob tactics and work with both the Republicans & the President to get his agenda accomplished. To further prove this point, they increased the lead of the Republicans in the Senate,(which essentially RINO proofs the Senate and guarantees Trump’s SCOTUS picks are in. Also defies historical averages). If the Democrats follow through on their threats of non stop investigations, and gridlock both the government & the economy, then they will pay a heavy price in 2020. How could a rational person that has been paying attention give Dems a second chance? With a record economy even...this country is already F'd |
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Post by principledcon on Nov 7, 2018 16:01:02 GMT -6
Not a good candidate? He was good enough to have trounced his Democratic challenger by over 20% in each of his first two elections, one of which was only 2 years ago. The PVI is R+10. Republicans have held the seat since 1975. The demographics of District 5 have not changed that much in only 2 years. He must have done something to piss off his Republican support. He did not work at it, the gist of what I read is he took it for granted that he would win, instead of campaigning hard , he claimed to be spending time in DC. I think I read that in a story at Oklahoma Watch. And I noticed that I saw very little of him until the last two weeks of the campaign.
And maybe he's not drawn a strong opponent in the past, hell, I can't remember last week, much less the 5th District campaign two or four years ago.
And according to Scott Mitchell on News9 app last night, the demographics have changed. He said Oklahoma County is now blue.
You gotta admit, the Bernie Sanders phenomenon was not even thought of two years ago. We're seeing candidates openly admit to being socialist and either winning or coming close to winning , all across the nation. The Dem for Gov Florida , Gillum, said he was an avowed socialist.
People are finding out they can vote themselves free stuff and they like the idea of it.
And those downtown kewl districts have changed just over the last two years, been a lot of people moving to live down there. Midtown has grown exponentially , among others. Just look at the new apartments in Midtown and over by Deep Deuce . It changed fast.
All ya gotta do , is go here and look at the precincts that Horn won, it becomes obvious what happened, at least to me
All big time cities turn blue just like OKC...never thought it was possible but that was 1 reason I didn't want Cornett... |
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Post by 1tc on Nov 7, 2018 18:19:34 GMT -6
OKC might be blue but fuck, Russell is creepy and didn’t even try. His fake voice is hard to listen to. He got beat by a divorced, failed attorney, highly likely lesbian who previously was a yoga instructor after quitting her law profession and also Joe Dorman’s campaign manager.
She’s a really nice person. Dad is a retired house husband, mom is a retired physical therapist who used crystals as a part of her healing process and her brother is a physician. They are nice folks.
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