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Post by sooner98 on Aug 26, 2018 15:05:55 GMT -6
dailycaller.com/2018/08/26/cindy-mccain-vacant-senate-seat/Arizona Republican Gov. Doug Ducey is tasked with appointing a Republican to replace Sen. John McCain, who served in the Senate for 32 years and passed away Saturday. Ducey resisted discussing possible replacements when the senator was alive, even as he underwent treatment for a fatal cancerous brain tumor caused by glioblastoma, and criticized candidates outwardly lobbying for the position. (RELATED: McCain Dies At Age 81) “They’ve basically disqualified themselves by showing their true character,” Ducey told a local radio station in Arizona, KTAR, in December. Some speculate that McCain’s wife, Cindy, may be a possible replacement, although conservatives from the base are pressuring Ducey, who will go up for reelection himself in November, to appoint someone who is loyal to President Donald Trump to fill the vacant seat, according to reports by The Wall Street Journal. www.wsj.com/articles/mccains-senate-seat-to-be-filled-by-gubernatorial-appointment-1535248091The replacement, who will be selected by gubernatorial appointment under Arizona state law, must be a member of McCain’s party, and will fill the vacant seat for the next two years, until a special election in 2020 can determine who will complete the remainder of McCain’s term in the Senate. The seat will be up for reelection for a complete six-year term in 2022. Other potential appointees include Kirk Adams, Ducey’s chief of staff; Barbara Barrett, former gubernatorial candidate and wife of retired Intel Corp. Chief Executive Craig Barrett; Karrin Taylor Robson, who was appointed to the Arizona Board of Regents by Ducey in 2017; and Eileen Klein, who was appointed as state treasurer by the governor in 2018, according to the Arizona Central. Ducey himself will not be replacing McCain in the Senate, according to comments released earlier in 2018, Politico reported. Ducey tweeted his sympathies and support to the McCain family Saturday after the senator’s passing, calling McCain “A giant. An icon. An American hero,” but he did not mention anything about a potential appointment to his spot. Nominating someone sympathetic to the Trump agenda will certainly make Kavanaugh's confirmation that much easier. A fact not lost on many in Washington, I'm sure.
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Post by kcrufnek on Aug 26, 2018 15:08:44 GMT -6
]Nominating someone sympathetic to the Trump agenda will certainly make Kavanaugh's confirmation that much easier. A fact not lost on many in Washington, I'm sure. It'll make many votes better. That seat has been worthless for a long time.
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Post by trumped on Aug 26, 2018 19:33:14 GMT -6
Saw this tweet and he was involved in the fake dossier to attempt a coup on our POTUS.
Di WWG1WGA @dihaggis · 4h Replying to @mommags2579 @chatbycc and @realdonaldtrump Given McCain was an instigator in the fake dossier,I am saddened he will not be brought to justice.
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Post by kcrufnek on Aug 26, 2018 20:52:21 GMT -6
All this McCain ass licking is fucking up my recording of other stuff.
Watching CNN you'd think that FDR had returned.
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Post by trumped on Aug 26, 2018 21:26:07 GMT -6
John McCain Took Part of $1 Million in Cash, Lavish Vacations, Private Jets from Conman; Then Lobbied Feds to Cover Up $3.4 BILLION Crook Ripped Off from Americans adminAugust 25, 2018 That’s $3.4 Billion. Not million. Billion. That is how much theft Sen. John McCain tried to help cover up from his friend and benefactor Charles Keating who had greased McCain and other senators with more than $1 million in political contributions. But that did not include the family vacations McCain’s family took with the Keating’s. And the gifts. And the campaign cash. And the private jets. And whatever side deals, property and cash these senators quietly scored. So while everyone in D.C. now is offering tributes to John McCain — no one seems to remember the time he tried to make sure his pal could rip off billions from hard-working Americans who deposited their money in Lincoln Savings and Loan. Americans who lost their cash — and taxpayers who were on the hook for guaranteeing that money. Credit Barack Obama for raising this scandal — a debacle McCain and his spin doctors have worked so hard to bury — in 2008 when he ran against McCain for the presidency. Obama actually rolled out a website and made a documentary slamming McCain for his involvement. “McCain intervened on behalf of Charles Keating with federal regulators tasked with preventing banking fraud, and championed legislation to delay regulation of the savings and loan industry – actions that allowed Keating to continue his fraud at an incredible cost to taxpayers,” the site said. The Facts: Keating was sentenced to prison and required to pay more than $1 billion in civil penalties after being convicted on fraud, racketeering and conspiracy charges centered around his running of Lincoln Savings and Loan, which he bought in 1984. On April 14, 1989, Lincoln was seized by the government at an eventual taxpayer cost of $3.4 billion, then the most expensive thrift bailout in history. Lincoln and Keating became national symbols of the savings-and-loans collapse of the ’80s – much as lending firms Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have symbolized the current financial meltdown. McCain had been friends with Keating since the early ’80s – their families vacationed together several times, according to previous CNN reporting. Keating was an early financial supporter of McCain’s political career and donated to his campaigns repeatedly over the years. Keating’s first company, American Continental, was headquartered in Arizona, the state McCain represents. McCain became one of the so-called “Keating Five” – five U.S. senators investigated over accusations they tried to interfere in a federal investigation of Keating’s role in the savings-and-loan’s collapse truepundit.com/john-mccain-took-part-of-1-million-in-cash-lavish-vacations-private-jets-from-conman-then-lobbied-feds-to-cover-up-3-4-billion-crook-ripped-off-from-americans/
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Post by NN on Aug 26, 2018 22:17:42 GMT -6
So I wonder if Melania will be attending the funeral/service on behalf of the president?
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Post by sooner8th on Aug 27, 2018 7:49:23 GMT -6
McCain was a good man. Followed his heart and did what he thought was best. He acknowledged his flaws and the tines he acted "cowardly" for political expediency. I did not vote for him when I voted for Capt. Analysis Paralysis. I regret that. My Dad used to say, "There are no Statesmen left. Only politicians. RIP
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Post by okirishfan on Aug 27, 2018 8:29:19 GMT -6
So I wonder if Melania will be attending the funeral/service on behalf of the president? Well she'd be a much better representative.
See on the fake news today that the WH had prepared a statement ABOUT McCain, as opposed to Trump's tweet just saying the things he has to about his family, that he nixed. What a child and a major douche bag.
But do we expect from a guy who probably likes his congressman without cancer.
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Post by sooner8th on Aug 27, 2018 8:44:27 GMT -6
So I wonder if Melania will be attending the funeral/service on behalf of the president? Well she'd be a much better representative.
See on the fake news today that the WH had prepared a statement ABOUT McCain, as opposed to Trump's tweet just saying the things he has to about his family, that he nixed. What a child and a major douche bag.
But do we expect from a guy who probably likes his congressman without cancer.
Too bad we don't have an adult for a president. Remember when he said I can act presidential. Still waiting for it. Duckworth calls out 'Cadet Bone Spurs' after Trump's 'treasonous' remarkWashington (CNN)An Illinois Democrat who was seriously wounded in Iraq derisively referred to President Donald Trump's draft deferments after Trump called Democrats "treasonous" for not clapping during his State of the Union speech. "We don't live in a dictatorship or a monarchy. I swore an oath—in the military and in the Senate—to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, not to mindlessly cater to the whims of Cadet Bone Spurs and clap when he demands I clap," Sen. Tammy Duckworth tweeted Monday evening. Duckworth, an Army veteran who lost her legs while serving in Iraq, appeared to be referencing Trump's draft deferments. Trump received five draft deferments throughout the Vietnam War, and on one occasion, Trump received a deferment because of bone spurs. On Monday, Trump called out Democrats' behavior at his speech last week. "They were like death and un-American. Un-American. Somebody said, 'Treasonous.' I mean, yeah, I guess, why not," Trump said, adding, "Can we call that treason? Why not." This isn't the first time Duckworth has pointed out Trump's draft deferments. Last month, she brought it up on the Senate floor. "I spent my entire adult life looking out for the well-being, the training, the equipping of the troops for whom I was responsible. I will not be lectured about what our military needs by a five-deferment draft dodger," Duckworth said at the time. www.cnn.com/2018/02/06/politics/tammy-duckworth-cadet-bone-spurs/index.html
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Post by oilsooner on Aug 27, 2018 9:16:34 GMT -6
Tom Woods’ take, and the closest I’ve seen to where I’m at on it: John McCain is dead. People tell me I should not criticize him right now. I do think some people are behaving in bad taste. But I do not think I am prohibited from making sober remarks at a moment when so many Americans, and the opinion molders who tell them what to think, are getting ludicrously carried away. The phenomenon we are witnessing is so Orwellian that I can’t resist exploring it. I am less concerned with criticizing McCain — there will be ample time for that — than I am with trying to understand the regime under which we live, and the media lackeys that glorify it. The tributes to McCain from the major newspapers are so over the top that there’s something more going on here than the perfunctory respect the media shows for most deceased politicians. They will not be speaking this way about Pat Buchanan — a real maverick, who was the first conservative I ever saw who broke with both parties (that’s what a maverick does) to point out that the sanctions on Iraq were creating a humanitarian catastrophe that no moral person could support (that’s what an actual conservative says). As if to show that she has every Establishment ritual already down to a science, even democratic socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez took to Twitter to say this: John McCain’s legacy represents an unparalleled example of human decency and American service. As an intern, I learned a lot about the power of humanity in government through his deep friendship with Sen. Kennedy. He meant so much, to so many. My prayers are with his family. “But she had to say something!” some say. She had to say “an unparalleled example of human decency and American service”? McCain’s bellicosity in foreign policy knew no bounds. A discussion of all the interventions he favored — every one of which would have intensified the problems it was allegedly to solve — would take all week. To a conservative movement that knows nothing of its history, this makes McCain a great conservative statesman. And to the American Establishment, bellicosity is not and has never been a deal breaker. McCain’s preferred foreign policy has yielded death, displacement, and regional chaos on a massive scale, not to mention a huge shot in the arm to the very Islamic radicalism he assured us he was fighting against. (McCain’s insistence on being involved in every Middle East conflict under the sun made him some hideous bedfellows, I might add, as when he met with members of the Northern Storm Brigade, which had handed American journalist Steven Sotloff over to ISIS for $25,000.) We are to believe that McCain was a “maverick.” This is because from time to time he joined forces with the Democrats, the left-wing side of the Establishment, in order to support a measure that just happened to win him media applause. That’s our definition of a maverick now? Ron Paul was a maverick. He stood up to the entire Establishment, not just its left-wing incarnation, and its beloved institutions. He cast the sole “no” vote in the House more than all other congressmen put together. He opposed the Fed when no one else so much as mentioned it, much less criticized it. He stood up to the empire — the whole rotten system, not just one particular intervention. He even got it through the thick heads of some conservatives that the bipartisan foreign policy consensus represented the very opposite of conservatism. Will our gatekeepers of approved opinion have such kind words for Ron Paul? The question answers itself. The last thing the regime and its kept media want is a genuine maverick, a true dissident who asks the questions we are supposed to keep to ourselves. McCain loved the regime and the empire. At no time did he adopt a position that the New York Times or the Washington Post would consider a fundamental attack on the state. And that is why they love him. He played by their rules. They were thrilled to call him a “conservative,” all the better to police opinion in America: why, if you’re a conservative, we have this John McCain fellow for you! McCain’s legacy lives on in every politician and journalist who jumps on every propaganda report to justify another round of bombing and destruction. It lives on in every politician who, 15 years after another idiotic military intervention, finally admits it was a “mistake,” never apologizing to the people he smeared at the time who tried telling him it was a mistake and who predicted every obvious consequence that any damn fool should have known. It lives on in a media that craves bipartisanship — but bipartisanship in the service of the state, and bipartisanship in which the left gets what it wants and the right gets a nice photo-op. It lives on in the families who are missing children because of a war that McCain finally admitted had been a hideous mistake and a ludicrous expenditure of scarce resources. McCain was a man of the state, in every fiber of his being. That is why they cheer him. And that is why we must tell unpopular truths — about McCain, and the corrupt empire he served. tomwoods.com/what-the-mccain-eulogies-tell-us-about-the-media-and-the-regime/Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by soonerbounce13 on Aug 27, 2018 9:36:14 GMT -6
Out of respect, I won’t link the article, but unbelievably Vox has wrote a hit piece on McCain. The tweet that announced it by the author is now deleted, but plenty of others saved it. The author,(a woman), received a ton of pushback & is playing the victim card. Here it is and it is very true. www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/8/25/17779128/sarah-palin-john-mccain-legacy-trumpYou people showed ZERO respect for teddy kennedy when he died, so let's play by your rules. Pretty crappy thing to do but I'd expect nothign else from Vox. Acting like palin was the first time in politics that a party has put their eggs in that kind of basket is ridiculous.
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Post by oilsooner on Aug 27, 2018 9:48:27 GMT -6
Pretty crappy thing to do but I'd expect nothign else from Vox. Acting like palin was the first time in politics that a party has put their eggs in that kind of basket is ridiculous. Vox is similar to those handbills from Buffalo Bill Cody's shows. They are 90% exaggerations and "entertainment value only," but since that isn't explicitly stated next to their stories, some people take them seriously.
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Post by sooner8th on Aug 27, 2018 9:50:23 GMT -6
Pretty crappy thing to do but I'd expect nothign else from Vox. Acting like palin was the first time in politics that a party has put their eggs in that kind of basket is ridiculous. Go back and take a look at the rightwingnut coverage of Ted Kennedy when he passed. Ten times more vicious, the other difference is everything she said is true. McCain sold his soul to placate rightwingnuts and pull that total piece of shit, loser palin into the national spotlight. Your party defending the loser moron from the most basic questions lead right to trump.
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Post by sooner8th on Aug 27, 2018 9:53:00 GMT -6
Pretty crappy thing to do but I'd expect nothign else from Vox. Acting like palin was the first time in politics that a party has put their eggs in that kind of basket is ridiculous. Vox is similar to those handbills from Buffalo Bill Cody's shows. They are 90% exaggerations and "entertainment value only," but since that isn't explicitly stated next to their stories, some people take them seriously. It's not like she mentioned the treason he pulled with recorded voice and tv interviews while a POW. Look how John Kerry was treated by your party - total lies about his service - just imagine what it would be like if he had done what mccain did.
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Post by okirishfan on Aug 27, 2018 9:53:28 GMT -6
I'll be the first to say, and was saying it the night it happened, that the MSM is giving this so much attention, and being quite kind to McCain, because it's a big "F-you" to Trump. I have no doubt in my mind about that.
That being said, the opportunity was given to them on a silver platter by a classless president who called into question, for lack of a better phrase, the service, toughness, (I'm not exactly sure what he was trying to prove) of an American POW that has endured more in 5 years than Trump will have done in his entire life. That much alone demands respect.
Now you have reports (and really the validation of the reports is irrelevant as the tweet speaks for itself, as to what it is lacking)saying that Trump nixed a WH statement praising McCain's heroism and service. Whether that's true or not, Trump's silence about McCain's service (not just military), or ANYTHING positive, speaks volumes about the immaturity of this "man" who thinks he's a "tough guy". In the immortal and ever prolific words of the tough man himself....SAD!
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Post by oilsooner on Aug 27, 2018 10:02:20 GMT -6
Vox is similar to those handbills from Buffalo Bill Cody's shows. They are 90% exaggerations and "entertainment value only," but since that isn't explicitly stated next to their stories, some people take them seriously. It's not like she mentioned the treason he pulled with recorded voice and tv interviews while a POW. Look how John Kerry was treated by your party - total lies about his service - just imagine what it would be like if he had done what mccain did. No clue what you're talking about. I'm not 100% on McCain's service history myself, because I wasn't there, and don't know who to trust on his record. I didn't vote for him in 2008 because I didn't trust him, and thought he was a pretend "maverick" even then. The MSM agreed with that, for the most part, until Trump talked trash about him (which was classless, and not something I endorse). I'd say most in the country agreed with my stance at the time, based on the election returns. I couldn't give two shits about John Kerry either. Pretty sure lots of things happened during war that wouldn't look right once opposing politicians had the chance to frame them. So, I don't take the speculation and rumor too seriously. But, I do know what McCain and Kerry did as Senators. I don't agree with their positions or tactics, for the most part, so I wont be tearing up as they are laid to rest. I can respect McCain as a human, but this idolization is comical at best, and a symptom of whats wrong with our country today at worst.
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Post by kcrufnek on Aug 27, 2018 10:13:17 GMT -6
No clue what you're talking about. I'm not 100% on McCain's service history myself, because I wasn't there, and don't know who to trust on his record. I didn't vote for him in 2008 because I didn't trust him, and thought he was a pretend "maverick" even then. The MSM agreed with that, for the most part, until Trump talked trash about him (which was classless, and not something I endorse). I'd say most in the country agreed with my stance at the time, based on the election returns. I couldn't give two shits about John Kerry either. Pretty sure lots of things happened during war that wouldn't look right once opposing politicians had the chance to frame them. So, I don't take the speculation and rumor too seriously. But, I do know what McCain and Kerry did as Senators. I don't agree with their positions or tactics, for the most part, so I wont be tearing up as they are laid to rest. I can respect McCain as a human, but this idolization is comical at best, and a symptom of whats wrong with our country today at worst. That's okay. Neither does he. Amazing the children on the board blowing John Kerry and banging the ashes of Uncle Keg. I wasn't a fan of McCain but compared to those two scumbags he was a saint. Hopefully Hanoi john will find his special place in hell next to Chappaquiddick Ted.
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Post by trumped on Aug 27, 2018 10:37:57 GMT -6
Jack Posobiec @jackposobiec · 2h And just like that the entire media suddenly decided to demand we respect the flag to honor a fallen veteran after they spent the last two years celebrating the NFL flag protests
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Post by xingtherubicon on Aug 27, 2018 11:06:25 GMT -6
I'll be the first to say, and was saying it the night it happened, that the MSM is giving this so much attention, and being quite kind to McCain, because it's a big "F-you" to Trump. I have no doubt in my mind about that. That being said, the opportunity was given to them on a silver platter by a classless president who called into question, for lack of a better phrase, the service, toughness, (I'm not exactly sure what he was trying to prove) of an American POW that has endured more in 5 years than Trump will have done in his entire life. That much alone demands respect. Now you have reports (and really the validation of the reports is irrelevant as the tweet speaks for itself, as to what it is lacking)saying that Trump nixed a WH statement praising McCain's heroism and service. Whether that's true or not, Trump's silence about McCain's service (not just military), or ANYTHING positive, speaks volumes about the immaturity of this "man" who thinks he's a "tough guy". In the immortal and ever prolific words of the tough man himself....SAD! Everything you typed is unfortunately accurate. Don't forget that McCain got down in the mud as well, to get even with Trump. After campaigning for years to repeal and replace Obamacare, McCain compromised his word to even the score with Trump. I don't really blame him...Trump deserves to get kicked in the nuts for what he said about McCain "failing because he was captured." As far as the media, they're the most embarrassing entity in the United States at present.
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Post by soonerbounce13 on Aug 27, 2018 11:12:28 GMT -6
Pretty crappy thing to do but I'd expect nothign else from Vox. Acting like palin was the first time in politics that a party has put their eggs in that kind of basket is ridiculous. Go back and take a look at the rightwingnut coverage of Ted Kennedy when he passed. Ten times more vicious, the other difference is everything she said is true. McCain sold his soul to placate rightwingnuts and pull that total piece of shit, loser palin into the national spotlight. Your party defending the loser moron from the most basic questions lead right to trump. first, from what I can tell, Palin never killed anyone. I'm sure Ted Kennedy was a good man. I don't remember the hit pieces coming out right when he died but I didn't pay attention to politics back then. Secondly, how did Mccain sell his soul? He made a move to try and win the election that he was clearly losing. Palin wasn't prepared, but she is far smarter than what people want to give her credit for. I don't fault mccain for going for the homerun hire as a last ditch effort. And I don't think that constitutes as selling his soul. And actually, what led to trump is the attitude of liberals...which is very apparant in your post.
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Post by okirishfan on Aug 27, 2018 11:20:15 GMT -6
I'll be the first to say, and was saying it the night it happened, that the MSM is giving this so much attention, and being quite kind to McCain, because it's a big "F-you" to Trump. I have no doubt in my mind about that. That being said, the opportunity was given to them on a silver platter by a classless president who called into question, for lack of a better phrase, the service, toughness, (I'm not exactly sure what he was trying to prove) of an American POW that has endured more in 5 years than Trump will have done in his entire life. That much alone demands respect. Now you have reports (and really the validation of the reports is irrelevant as the tweet speaks for itself, as to what it is lacking)saying that Trump nixed a WH statement praising McCain's heroism and service. Whether that's true or not, Trump's silence about McCain's service (not just military), or ANYTHING positive, speaks volumes about the immaturity of this "man" who thinks he's a "tough guy". In the immortal and ever prolific words of the tough man himself....SAD! Everything you typed is unfortunately accurate. Don't forget that McCain got down in the mud as well, to get even with Trump. After campaigning for years to repeal and replace Obamacare, McCain compromised his word to even the score with Trump. I don't really blame him...Trump deserves to get kicked in the nuts for what he said about McCain "failing because he was captured." As far as the media, they're the most embarrassing entity in the United States at present. This is not entirely true when placed in context. Yes, he wanted to repeal/replace, but he wanted it done the right way as he encouraged that the bill go through the proper hearings. That's what he found objectionable about it and thus voted it down. Had they not try to push it through, he might have been more willing to vote on it. So, I don't think it was much about "getting back" at Trump (although I'm sure that was an added bonus) as much as it was he had a problem with the process.
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Post by redrex1 on Aug 27, 2018 11:20:59 GMT -6
You can always count on ICKY for a mindless child like post
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Post by sooner8th on Aug 27, 2018 11:46:12 GMT -6
Go back and take a look at the rightwingnut coverage of Ted Kennedy when he passed. Ten times more vicious, the other difference is everything she said is true. McCain sold his soul to placate rightwingnuts and pull that total piece of shit, loser palin into the national spotlight. Your party defending the loser moron from the most basic questions lead right to trump. first, from what I can tell, Palin never killed anyone. I'm sure Ted Kennedy was a good man. I don't remember the hit pieces coming out right when he died but I didn't pay attention to politics back then. Secondly, how did Mccain sell his soul? He made a move to try and win the election that he was clearly losing. Palin wasn't prepared, but she is far smarter than what people want to give her credit for. I don't fault mccain for going for the homerun hire as a last ditch effort. And I don't think that constitutes as selling his soul. And actually, what led to trump is the attitude of liberals...which is very apparant in your post. How did Mccain sell his soul? He made a move to try and win the election that he was clearly losing. Palin wasn't prepared Answers your question for you. Anyone who knows what was going on in'08 knows that he had to pick a loudmouth conservative to solidify the base. Palin wasn't prepared and she is not smart at all, don't confuse the willingness to do anything with being smart - it is just a lack of character. Smarter than people give her credit for? She is a dumbass, so stupid what papers do you read was turned into a got ya question to cover her ignorant, hillbilly, white trash, crooked, lazy, fame seeking ass. A home run hire? Don't make me fall off my chair laughing. It was not a last ditch effort, the campaign was just starting. EVERYONE knows it was a total, complete and utter disaster with her knocked up, unwed, 17 year old skank daughter in tow. It defiantly constitutes as selling his soul. Do we want to talk about how he was treated in SC primary by bush and whatever the fuck his name is? Mccain, took that dirty filthy lying crap from them and to keep his place in line for the next election - sucked up to them for eight long years.
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Post by Boots on Aug 27, 2018 11:53:47 GMT -6
Jack Posobiec @jackposobiec · 2h And just like that the entire media suddenly decided to demand we respect the flag to honor a fallen veteran after they spent the last two years celebrating the NFL flag protests lolz McCain went out of his waybto make sure Trump was excluded from the funeral arrangements. If you want to be bitter enemies from beyond the grave, live with flags at full staff.
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Post by oilsooner on Aug 27, 2018 12:03:26 GMT -6
I'll be the first to say, and was saying it the night it happened, that the MSM is giving this so much attention, and being quite kind to McCain, because it's a big "F-you" to Trump. I have no doubt in my mind about that. That being said, the opportunity was given to them on a silver platter by a classless president who called into question, for lack of a better phrase, the service, toughness, (I'm not exactly sure what he was trying to prove) of an American POW that has endured more in 5 years than Trump will have done in his entire life. That much alone demands respect. Now you have reports (and really the validation of the reports is irrelevant as the tweet speaks for itself, as to what it is lacking)saying that Trump nixed a WH statement praising McCain's heroism and service. Whether that's true or not, Trump's silence about McCain's service (not just military), or ANYTHING positive, speaks volumes about the immaturity of this "man" who thinks he's a "tough guy". In the immortal and ever prolific words of the tough man himself....SAD! Everything you typed is unfortunately accurate. Don't forget that McCain got down in the mud as well, to get even with Trump. After campaigning for years to repeal and replace Obamacare, McCain compromised his word to even the score with Trump. I don't really blame him...Trump deserves to get kicked in the nuts for what he said about McCain "failing because he was captured." As far as the media, they're the most embarrassing entity in the United States at present. McCain is just as bad as Trump, when it comes to politicizing actions and words. He was a career professional at it. In fact, the press treated him just like Trump before Trump. He was the guy that said "crazy" stuff and did "crazy" things, which is why he was called a "maverick." McCain's main gripe was that Trump took the "maverick" status from him in the campaign, then did what McCain could not: secure the Presidency of the United States. Its true that Trump went too far in his critique of McCain, but if McCain was the great person people are touting him as today, he would have found a way to make peace with it, be the better person, and turn it into a positive. Instead, he went in the complete opposite direction with it, with all the fire and fury of a career politician. McCain campaigned for years on the reversal of Obamacare, then chose to vote against his constituents simply because Trump gave him a case of the red ass. This is not the sign of a diplomat, and certainly not a great patriot, who always put country first. Not only that, McCain has LONG history of bad behavior that gets glossed over by the left, solely because he took a swing at Trump. This is evident because they used to dislike him over these actions....until he took a swing at Trump. Both McCain and Trump were wrong in their words and actions resulting from their feud, but Trump haters will never admit that. Many people see it though, and I am sure that number will grow as we get some separation from the event and are able to get a better collective perspective.
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Post by kcrufnek on Aug 27, 2018 12:03:47 GMT -6
How did Mccain sell his soul? He made a move to try and win the election that he was clearly losing. Palin wasn't prepared Answers your question for you. Anyone who knows what was going on in'08 knows that he had to pick a loudmouth conservative to solidify the base. Palin wasn't prepared and she is not smart at all, don't confuse the willingness to do anything with being smart - it is just a lack of character. Smarter than people give her credit for? She is a dumbass, so stupid what papers do you read was turned into a got ya question to cover her ignorant, hillbilly, white trash, crooked, lazy, fame seeking ass. A home run hire? Don't make me fall off my chair laughing. It was not a last ditch effort, the campaign was just starting. EVERYONE knows it was a total, complete and utter disaster with her knocked up, unwed, 17 year old skank daughter in tow. It defiantly constitutes as selling his soul. Do we want to talk about how he was treated in SC primary by bush and whatever the fuck his name is? Mccain, took that dirty filthy lying crap from them and to keep his place in line for the next election - sucked up to them for eight long years. His campaign was dead in the water until he picked Palin. Had it not been for Bush and the the disaster of the economy they might have well won.
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Post by kcrufnek on Aug 27, 2018 12:05:46 GMT -6
first, from what I can tell, Palin never killed anyone. I'm sure Ted Kennedy was a good man. I don't remember the hit pieces coming out right when he died but I didn't pay attention to politics back then. Secondly, how did Mccain sell his soul? He made a move to try and win the election that he was clearly losing. Palin wasn't prepared, but she is far smarter than what people want to give her credit for. I don't fault mccain for going for the homerun hire as a last ditch effort. And I don't think that constitutes as selling his soul. And actually, what led to trump is the attitude of liberals...which is very apparant in your post. Ted Kennedy was a piece of shit. Morally bankrupt just like his old man and his brothers. Maybe you should ask Mary Jo's family how good of a man he was.
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Post by okirishfan on Aug 27, 2018 12:30:02 GMT -6
I always thought a "feud" involved two parties, as opposed to one party attacking the other on something personal and completely baseless?
One side of this "feud" was someone who got upset because another person criticized his actions/policies and thus attacked the other from a personal standpoint on several occasions.
One side of this "feud" continues to attack the other EVEN AFTER HE'S DEAD. Again, not attacking his policies, but the person.
Not much of a comparison there and I find it laughable that anyone would attempt to do so. Huge difference between being critical of one's actions and attacking the person because they can't debate the real issue at hand (or take the criticism).
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Post by sooner8th on Aug 27, 2018 13:06:12 GMT -6
How did Mccain sell his soul? He made a move to try and win the election that he was clearly losing. Palin wasn't prepared Answers your question for you. Anyone who knows what was going on in'08 knows that he had to pick a loudmouth conservative to solidify the base. Palin wasn't prepared and she is not smart at all, don't confuse the willingness to do anything with being smart - it is just a lack of character. Smarter than people give her credit for? She is a dumbass, so stupid what papers do you read was turned into a got ya question to cover her ignorant, hillbilly, white trash, crooked, lazy, fame seeking ass. A home run hire? Don't make me fall off my chair laughing. It was not a last ditch effort, the campaign was just starting. EVERYONE knows it was a total, complete and utter disaster with her knocked up, unwed, 17 year old skank daughter in tow. It defiantly constitutes as selling his soul. Do we want to talk about how he was treated in SC primary by bush and whatever the fuck his name is? Mccain, took that dirty filthy lying crap from them and to keep his place in line for the next election - sucked up to them for eight long years. His campaign was dead in the water until he picked Palin. Had it not been for Bush and the the disaster of the economy they might have well won. Go and take a look at the polling. Not what happened.
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Post by sooner8th on Aug 27, 2018 13:11:59 GMT -6
trump only lowered flags for a few hours, had a picture of himself when he tweeted about mccains death, refused to talk about him when asked by reporters and now will not go to the funeral. What a piece of shit. You think teddy kennedy was a sorry human being? trump is ten times worse.
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