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Post by trumped on Sept 2, 2018 11:14:29 GMT -6
Candace Owens ✔ @realcandaceo This new trend of using funerals and eulogies to deliver political messages is really quite disgusting. Sympathy from death as means to sway public opinion is next level corrupt. Everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves. 10:16 AM - Sep 1, 2018 62.2K 31.7K people are talking about this Candace is very articulate and has a chance to be a Pub rock star. She holds no punches and deals with issues head on. Hope she runs for office soon.
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Post by sooner8th on Sept 2, 2018 13:10:34 GMT -6
You are that stupid to think that actually happened. It was HILLARY that was damaged by a republican run FBI not trump. Get a fucking clue. There is not one iota of evidence to substantiate what you just posted. Please educate the lemmings and give us said clue. Oh yes there is. What you don't have is any evidence to substantiate the crazy conspiracies that you and your party propagate. ZERO on Obama being born in Kenya, ZERO on the "murders" the Clintons committed. Whose campaign was damaged by the FBI breaking DOJ policy and announcing, not once but TWICE, about an ongoing investigation into Hillary's emails while being totally silent about the on investigation into trump and russian influence over trump.
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Post by jimmy on Sept 2, 2018 13:18:49 GMT -6
There is not one iota of evidence to substantiate what you just posted. Please educate the lemmings and give us said clue. Oh yes there is. What you don't have is any evidence to substantiate the crazy conspiracies that you and your party propagate. ZERO on Obama being born in Kenya, ZERO on the "murders" the Clintons committed. Whose campaign was damaged by the FBI breaking DOJ policy and announcing, not once but TWICE, about an ongoing investigation into Hillary's emails while being totally silent about the on investigation into trump and russian influence over trump.
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Post by Boots on Sept 2, 2018 13:29:13 GMT -6
There is not one iota of evidence to substantiate what you just posted. Please educate the lemmings and give us said clue. Oh yes there is. What you don't have is any evidence to substantiate the crazy conspiracies that you and your party propagate. ZERO on Obama being born in Kenya, ZERO on the "murders" the Clintons committed. Whose campaign was damaged by the FBI breaking DOJ policy and announcing, not once but TWICE, about an ongoing investigation into Hillary's emails while being totally silent about the on investigation into trump and russian influence over trump. Holy shit. The kid made a relevant point. That is valid, but you do have two issues. First, Comey testified that the FBI had essentially cleared her before the investigation was done. Honestly, I did not really believe it was such a big deal at the time anyways, it seemed like partisan GOP bullshit and most voters were not swung by the issue. That is my belief. Hard to say if it influenced voters. Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable.
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Post by sooner8th on Sept 2, 2018 13:44:01 GMT -6
Oh yes there is. What you don't have is any evidence to substantiate the crazy conspiracies that you and your party propagate. ZERO on Obama being born in Kenya, ZERO on the "murders" the Clintons committed. Whose campaign was damaged by the FBI breaking DOJ policy and announcing, not once but TWICE, about an ongoing investigation into Hillary's emails while being totally silent about the on investigation into trump and russian influence over trump. Holy shit. The kid made a relevant point. That is valid, but you do have two issues. First, Comey testified that the FBI had essentially cleared her before the investigation was done. Honestly, I did not really believe it was such a big deal at the time anyways, it seemed like partisan GOP bullshit and most voters were not swung by the issue. That is my belief. Hard to say if it influenced voters. Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable. Holy shit, you just don't pay attention to facts, only to trump wingnut talking points. Lifelong republican Comey didn't talk about it once but TWICE. The second time was 11 days before election on something they knew were duplicate emails. Hillary had an 13 point lead right before Comey came out the second time, a week later it was 5 point lead. Study after study has shown that 10-12% of voters decided the last week and broke heavily towards trump and remember he only won three or four states by a point. It made the difference. "Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable." Show me your evidence. No one got in touch with her about it. Show me how she "adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016".
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Post by soonernvolved on Sept 2, 2018 14:29:54 GMT -6
Video at link: www.breitbart.com/video/2018/09/02/lindsey-graham-defends-meghan-mccain-shes-grieving/On this weekend’s broadcast of “Fox News Sunday,” Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) defended the remarks of Meghan McCain at her father Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) funeral. When asked about Meghan McCain’s swipes at President Donald Trump, Graham said, “If you say something bad about Meghan’s father, you will know it, she didn’t like it. So it’s OK. She’s grieving.”
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Post by Boots on Sept 2, 2018 14:33:51 GMT -6
Holy shit. The kid made a relevant point. That is valid, but you do have two issues. First, Comey testified that the FBI had essentially cleared her before the investigation was done. Honestly, I did not really believe it was such a big deal at the time anyways, it seemed like partisan GOP bullshit and most voters were not swung by the issue. That is my belief. Hard to say if it influenced voters. Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable. Holy shit, you just don't pay attention to facts, only to trump wingnut talking points. Lifelong republican Comey didn't talk about it once but TWICE. The second time was 11 days before election on something they knew were duplicate emails. Hillary had an 13 point lead right before Comey came out the second time, a week later it was 5 point lead. Study after study has shown that 10-12% of voters decided the last week and broke heavily towards trump and remember he only won three or four states by a point. It made the difference. "Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable." Show me your evidence. No one got in touch with her about it. Show me how she "adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016". We both attribute cause an effect without a real tether. First, this election will be studied for year because it turned all we know about predicting the outcome on its head. Next, she lost and her numbers dropped for a variety of reasons and you attribute it to the investigation and second appearance before Congress. You may be right. But there is no concrete link. If you want concrete links, to your second point, we now know that Hillary and the DNC had paid Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on trump well before the election. But on October 31st, her official twitter stated there was a secret server at Trump towers in direct communication with Russia. The election was 9 days later. This is what we call an October surprise. She has gone on to fan the same flames of collusion www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/09/12/clinton-just-accused-trump-associates-of-collusion-with-russia/?utm_term=.3ffa768fcc63
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Post by soonernvolved on Sept 2, 2018 14:38:16 GMT -6
Holy shit. The kid made a relevant point. That is valid, but you do have two issues. First, Comey testified that the FBI had essentially cleared her before the investigation was done. Honestly, I did not really believe it was such a big deal at the time anyways, it seemed like partisan GOP bullshit and most voters were not swung by the issue. That is my belief. Hard to say if it influenced voters. Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of hClinton suggests Russia working to elect Trump During her first press conference in 275 days, she expresses concern about the intervention of Vladimir Putin's government in the election. By ANNIE KARNI 09/05/2016 08:35 PM EDT Share on Facebook Share on Twitter HAMPTON, Ill. — Hillary Clinton on Monday expressed “a very serious” concern about Russia’s apparent tampering with the U.S. election, implying that President Vladimir Putin and the “adversarial foreign power” he governs are actively trying to elect Donald Trump.er campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable. Holy shit, you just don't pay attention to facts, only to trump wingnut talking points. Lifelong republican Comey didn't talk about it once but TWICE. The second time was 11 days before election on something they knew were duplicate emails. Hillary had an 13 point lead right before Comey came out the second time, a week later it was 5 point lead. Study after study has shown that 10-12% of voters decided the last week and broke heavily towards trump and remember he only won three or four states by a point. It made the difference. "Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable." Show me your evidence. No one got in touch with her about it. Show me how she "adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016". From September 05, 2016: NYTimes: www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-russia.htmlHillary Clinton Accuses Russia of Interfering With U.S. Election ......... Left leaning Politico: www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-press-russia-putin-227748Clinton suggests Russia working to elect Trump During her first press conference in 275 days, she expresses concern about the intervention of Vladimir Putin's government in the election. By ANNIE KARNI 09/05/2016 08:35 PM EDT Share on Facebook Share on Twitter HAMPTON, Ill. — Hillary Clinton on Monday expressed “a very serious” concern about Russia’s apparent tampering with the U.S. election, implying that President Vladimir Putin and the “adversarial foreign power” he governs are actively trying to elect Donald Trump.
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Post by soonernvolved on Sept 2, 2018 14:44:17 GMT -6
www.breitbart.com/video/2018/09/02/abcs-martha-raddatz-at-times-mccain-memorial-felt-like-a-censure-of-donald-trump/Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” guest host Martha Raddatz said Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) funeral was “a censure” of President Donald Trump. Raddatz said, “It was a remarkable scene here in Washington yesterday as mourners filled the National Cathedral to pay their respects to the late Sen. John McCain. The kind of service normally reserved for presidents. All week McCain’s services, final message and the speakers he hand-picked to eulogize him stood as an emotional admonishment of the partisan politics increasingly consuming this country, at times, as much a censure of Donald Trump as an embrace of an American hero.” She added, “John McCain’s voice was as clear and defiant as ever, in the sentiments of his daughter Meghan McCain.”
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Post by Boots on Sept 2, 2018 15:02:20 GMT -6
Holy shit, you just don't pay attention to facts, only to trump wingnut talking points. Lifelong republican Comey didn't talk about it once but TWICE. The second time was 11 days before election on something they knew were duplicate emails. Hillary had an 13 point lead right before Comey came out the second time, a week later it was 5 point lead. Study after study has shown that 10-12% of voters decided the last week and broke heavily towards trump and remember he only won three or four states by a point. It made the difference. "Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable." Show me your evidence. No one got in touch with her about it. Show me how she "adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016". From September 05, 2016: NYTimes: www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-russia.htmlHillary Clinton Accuses Russia of Interfering With U.S. Election ......... Left leaning Politico: www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-press-russia-putin-227748Clinton suggests Russia working to elect Trump During her first press conference in 275 days, she expresses concern about the intervention of Vladimir Putin's government in the election. By ANNIE KARNI 09/05/2016 08:35 PM EDT Share on Facebook Share on Twitter HAMPTON, Ill. — Hillary Clinton on Monday expressed “a very serious” concern about Russia’s apparent tampering with the U.S. election, implying that President Vladimir Putin and the “adversarial foreign power” he governs are actively trying to elect Donald Trump. BRO - THAT IS SEPTEMBER ! That is more than a month outside of the election day
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Post by jimmy on Sept 2, 2018 15:19:19 GMT -6
Holy shit. The kid made a relevant point. That is valid, but you do have two issues. First, Comey testified that the FBI had essentially cleared her before the investigation was done. Honestly, I did not really believe it was such a big deal at the time anyways, it seemed like partisan GOP bullshit and most voters were not swung by the issue. That is my belief. Hard to say if it influenced voters. Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable. Holy shit, you just don't pay attention to facts, only to trump wingnut talking points. Lifelong republican Comey didn't talk about it once but TWICE. The second time was 11 days before election on something they knew were duplicate emails. Hillary had an 13 point lead right before Comey came out the second time, a week later it was 5 point lead. Study after study has shown that 10-12% of voters decided the last week and broke heavily towards trump and remember he only won three or four states by a point. It made the difference. "Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable." Show me your evidence. No one got in touch with her about it. Show me how she "adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016".
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Post by kcrufnek on Sept 2, 2018 16:14:59 GMT -6
Never let a good corpse go to waste.
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Post by oilsooner on Sept 2, 2018 16:49:10 GMT -6
Holy shit. The kid made a relevant point. That is valid, but you do have two issues. First, Comey testified that the FBI had essentially cleared her before the investigation was done. Honestly, I did not really believe it was such a big deal at the time anyways, it seemed like partisan GOP bullshit and most voters were not swung by the issue. That is my belief. Hard to say if it influenced voters. Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable. Holy shit, you just don't pay attention to facts, only to trump wingnut talking points. Lifelong republican Comey didn't talk about it once but TWICE. The second time was 11 days before election on something they knew were duplicate emails. Hillary had an 13 point lead right before Comey came out the second time, a week later it was 5 point lead. Study after study has shown that 10-12% of voters decided the last week and broke heavily towards trump and remember he only won three or four states by a point. It made the difference. "Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable." Show me your evidence. No one got in touch with her about it. Show me how she "adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016". What about the FBI passing around a dossier that Hillary’s party paid for, which they knew was false, and using that dossier to put multiple informants inside Trumps campaign? How did that help Trump win the election? Also, isn’t is true that if Hillary never had the illegal server, she wouldn’t have had to worry about the FBI reading her emails or allegedly using them against her? Seems she’s ultimately at fault regardless, for failing to follow the rules in the first place, no? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by sooner8th on Sept 2, 2018 17:13:10 GMT -6
Holy shit, you just don't pay attention to facts, only to trump wingnut talking points. Lifelong republican Comey didn't talk about it once but TWICE. The second time was 11 days before election on something they knew were duplicate emails. Hillary had an 13 point lead right before Comey came out the second time, a week later it was 5 point lead. Study after study has shown that 10-12% of voters decided the last week and broke heavily towards trump and remember he only won three or four states by a point. It made the difference. "Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable." Show me your evidence. No one got in touch with her about it. Show me how she "adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016". Should read - REPUBLICANS DON'T CARE
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Post by soonernvolved on Sept 2, 2018 17:16:44 GMT -6
From September 05, 2016: NYTimes: www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-russia.htmlHillary Clinton Accuses Russia of Interfering With U.S. Election ......... Left leaning Politico: www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-press-russia-putin-227748Clinton suggests Russia working to elect Trump During her first press conference in 275 days, she expresses concern about the intervention of Vladimir Putin's government in the election. By ANNIE KARNI 09/05/2016 08:35 PM EDT Share on Facebook Share on Twitter HAMPTON, Ill. — Hillary Clinton on Monday expressed “a very serious” concern about Russia’s apparent tampering with the U.S. election, implying that President Vladimir Putin and the “adversarial foreign power” he governs are actively trying to elect Donald Trump. BRO - THAT IS SEPTEMBER ! That is more than a month outside of the election day Lmao. True, but it shows she was planting the seeds for the “Russian narrative “ for awhile before election.
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Post by sooner8th on Sept 2, 2018 17:19:36 GMT -6
Holy shit, you just don't pay attention to facts, only to trump wingnut talking points. Lifelong republican Comey didn't talk about it once but TWICE. The second time was 11 days before election on something they knew were duplicate emails. Hillary had an 13 point lead right before Comey came out the second time, a week later it was 5 point lead. Study after study has shown that 10-12% of voters decided the last week and broke heavily towards trump and remember he only won three or four states by a point. It made the difference. "Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable." Show me your evidence. No one got in touch with her about it. Show me how she "adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016". We both attribute cause an effect without a real tether. First, this election will be studied for year because it turned all we know about predicting the outcome on its head. Next, she lost and her numbers dropped for a variety of reasons and you attribute it to the investigation and second appearance before Congress. You may be right. But there is no concrete link. If you want concrete links, to your second point, we now know that Hillary and the DNC had paid Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on trump well before the election. But on October 31st, her official twitter stated there was a secret server at Trump towers in direct communication with Russia. The election was 9 days later. This is what we call an October surprise. She has gone on to fan the same flames of collusion www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/09/12/clinton-just-accused-trump-associates-of-collusion-with-russia/?utm_term=.3ffa768fcc63Show me your evidence that she was altered by the FBI. If you suddenly want to play timing as evidence then lets see how this works. July 27, 2016: Trump publicly asked Russia to find Hillary’s emails. They acted within hours.On the very same day in 2016 that Donald Trump urged Russia to find Hillary Clinton’s missing emails, Russian intelligence officers launched a new attack to hack his opponent’s personal emails, according to the latest indictments from special counsel Robert Mueller. It is maybe the most eyebrow-raising detail in an indictment filled with them. Mueller on Friday indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers for crimes related to the hacking and public release of Democratic emails to influence the 2016 presidential campaign. To be clear, the Russian hacking of people close to Clinton didn’t start on July 27, 2016, when Trump stood before the whole world and said he hoped Russia would “find the 30,000 emails that are missing ... I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.” Emails from the Democratic National Committee had already been hacked and leaked, and we would later learn that Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s email account had already been compromised. As Vox’s Andrew Prokop has previously explained, the email phishing expeditions against Democrats were already well underway by March 2016. That’s around the time that Podesta’s emails, which would play such a prominent role in the final months of the campaign, were infiltrated. So Trump’s comments can’t be claimed as the start of Russia’s digital attacks against American political parties and figures. But the timing is nevertheless uncanny. On July 27, Trump calls for Russia to find Clinton’s missing emails. That same day — “after hours” as the indictment notes, which strongly suggests this was after Trump’s statement — the hackers go after Clinton’s personal email. From the indictment: The conspirators spearphished individuals affiliated with the Clinton campaign through the summer of 2016. For example, on or about July 27, 2016, the conspirators attempted after hours to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton’s personal office. At or around the same time, they also targeted seventy-six email addresses at the domain for the Clinton campaign. Trump’s brazen comment urging a foreign power to hack his opponent has always been difficult to decipher. Was it typical Trumpian bluster, at a time when hacked emails and Clinton’s email server had been huge news stories? Or was there something more sinister going on? The new Mueller indictment doesn’t provide a definitive answer. But it sure looks like when Trump asked Russia to find Hillary Clinton’s emails, Russian intelligence heard him. www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/13/17569264/mueller-indictment-trump-russia-email-hack
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Post by sooner8th on Sept 2, 2018 17:25:45 GMT -6
Holy shit, you just don't pay attention to facts, only to trump wingnut talking points. Lifelong republican Comey didn't talk about it once but TWICE. The second time was 11 days before election on something they knew were duplicate emails. Hillary had an 13 point lead right before Comey came out the second time, a week later it was 5 point lead. Study after study has shown that 10-12% of voters decided the last week and broke heavily towards trump and remember he only won three or four states by a point. It made the difference. "Secondly, I firmly believe that Hillary was made aware of the Russian investigation and adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016. That is beyond problematic. Moreover, trump not being made aware once in office is unconscionable." Show me your evidence. No one got in touch with her about it. Show me how she "adopted it as part of her campaign narrative October 31, 2016". From September 05, 2016: NYTimes: www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-russia.htmlHillary Clinton Accuses Russia of Interfering With U.S. Election ......... Left leaning Politico: www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-press-russia-putin-227748Clinton suggests Russia working to elect Trump During her first press conference in 275 days, she expresses concern about the intervention of Vladimir Putin's government in the election. By ANNIE KARNI 09/05/2016 08:35 PM EDT Share on Facebook Share on Twitter HAMPTON, Ill. — Hillary Clinton on Monday expressed “a very serious” concern about Russia’s apparent tampering with the U.S. election, implying that President Vladimir Putin and the “adversarial foreign power” he governs are actively trying to elect Donald Trump. Left leaning Politico......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You're killing me Smalls. HAHAHAHAHAHA too funny.
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Post by oilsooner on Sept 2, 2018 18:07:19 GMT -6
Should read - REPUBLICANS DON'T CARE Do you care about the illegal server? How about opposition research being used by the FBI? How about the Chinese having access to a senators emails? I haven’t seen you complain about any of these illegal actions, so I’m forced to wonder what Dems care about... Now, a lemming would ignore all that, but you’re not a lemming are you?? No worries, LeBron has your back. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by sheepdog on Sept 2, 2018 18:08:44 GMT -6
From September 05, 2016: NYTimes: www.nytimes.com/2016/09/06/us/politics/hillary-clinton-russia.htmlHillary Clinton Accuses Russia of Interfering With U.S. Election ......... Left leaning Politico: www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-press-russia-putin-227748Clinton suggests Russia working to elect Trump During her first press conference in 275 days, she expresses concern about the intervention of Vladimir Putin's government in the election. By ANNIE KARNI 09/05/2016 08:35 PM EDT Share on Facebook Share on Twitter HAMPTON, Ill. — Hillary Clinton on Monday expressed “a very serious” concern about Russia’s apparent tampering with the U.S. election, implying that President Vladimir Putin and the “adversarial foreign power” he governs are actively trying to elect Donald Trump. Left leaning Politico......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA You're killing me Smalls. HAHAHAHAHAHA too funny. I'll take two tickets.
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Post by sheepdog on Sept 2, 2018 18:10:23 GMT -6
Should read - REPUBLICANS DON'T CARE Do you care about the illegal server? How about opposition research being used by the FBI? How about the Chinese having access to a senators emails? I haven’t seen you complain about any of these illegal actions, so I’m forced to wonder what Dems care about...
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Seeking and avoiding the truth simultaneously.
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Post by Boots on Sept 2, 2018 18:14:23 GMT -6
We both attribute cause an effect without a real tether. First, this election will be studied for year because it turned all we know about predicting the outcome on its head. Next, she lost and her numbers dropped for a variety of reasons and you attribute it to the investigation and second appearance before Congress. You may be right. But there is no concrete link. If you want concrete links, to your second point, we now know that Hillary and the DNC had paid Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on trump well before the election. But on October 31st, her official twitter stated there was a secret server at Trump towers in direct communication with Russia. The election was 9 days later. This is what we call an October surprise. She has gone on to fan the same flames of collusion www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/09/12/clinton-just-accused-trump-associates-of-collusion-with-russia/?utm_term=.3ffa768fcc63Show me your evidence that she was altered by the FBI. If you suddenly want to play timing as evidence then lets see how this works. July 27, 2016: Trump publicly asked Russia to find Hillary’s emails. They acted within hours.On the very same day in 2016 that Donald Trump urged Russia to find Hillary Clinton’s missing emails, Russian intelligence officers launched a new attack to hack his opponent’s personal emails, according to the latest indictments from special counsel Robert Mueller. It is maybe the most eyebrow-raising detail in an indictment filled with them. Mueller on Friday indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers for crimes related to the hacking and public release of Democratic emails to influence the 2016 presidential campaign. To be clear, the Russian hacking of people close to Clinton didn’t start on July 27, 2016, when Trump stood before the whole world and said he hoped Russia would “find the 30,000 emails that are missing ... I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.” Emails from the Democratic National Committee had already been hacked and leaked, and we would later learn that Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s email account had already been compromised. As Vox’s Andrew Prokop has previously explained, the email phishing expeditions against Democrats were already well underway by March 2016. That’s around the time that Podesta’s emails, which would play such a prominent role in the final months of the campaign, were infiltrated. So Trump’s comments can’t be claimed as the start of Russia’s digital attacks against American political parties and figures. But the timing is nevertheless uncanny. On July 27, Trump calls for Russia to find Clinton’s missing emails. That same day — “after hours” as the indictment notes, which strongly suggests this was after Trump’s statement — the hackers go after Clinton’s personal email. From the indictment: The conspirators spearphished individuals affiliated with the Clinton campaign through the summer of 2016. For example, on or about July 27, 2016, the conspirators attempted after hours to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton’s personal office. At or around the same time, they also targeted seventy-six email addresses at the domain for the Clinton campaign. Trump’s brazen comment urging a foreign power to hack his opponent has always been difficult to decipher. Was it typical Trumpian bluster, at a time when hacked emails and Clinton’s email server had been huge news stories? Or was there something more sinister going on? The new Mueller indictment doesn’t provide a definitive answer. But it sure looks like when Trump asked Russia to find Hillary Clinton’s emails, Russian intelligence heard him. www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/13/17569264/mueller-indictment-trump-russia-email-hackI tried to treat you like an adult. My failure.
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Post by oilsooner on Sept 2, 2018 18:14:43 GMT -6
Do you care about the illegal server? How about opposition research being used by the FBI? How about the Chinese having access to a senators emails? I haven’t seen you complain about any of these illegal actions, so I’m forced to wonder what Dems care about...
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Seeking and avoiding the truth simultaneously. I think that’s 8th grades motto... Dudes either a troll or a moron. Doesn’t really matter which. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by soonernvolved on Sept 2, 2018 20:17:38 GMT -6
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Post by Boots on Sept 3, 2018 8:57:40 GMT -6
We both attribute cause an effect without a real tether. First, this election will be studied for year because it turned all we know about predicting the outcome on its head. Next, she lost and her numbers dropped for a variety of reasons and you attribute it to the investigation and second appearance before Congress. You may be right. But there is no concrete link. If you want concrete links, to your second point, we now know that Hillary and the DNC had paid Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on trump well before the election. But on October 31st, her official twitter stated there was a secret server at Trump towers in direct communication with Russia. The election was 9 days later. This is what we call an October surprise. She has gone on to fan the same flames of collusion www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/09/12/clinton-just-accused-trump-associates-of-collusion-with-russia/?utm_term=.3ffa768fcc63Show me your evidence that she was altered by the FBI. If you suddenly want to play timing as evidence then lets see how this works. July 27, 2016: Trump publicly asked Russia to find Hillary’s emails. They acted within hours.On the very same day in 2016 that Donald Trump urged Russia to find Hillary Clinton’s missing emails, Russian intelligence officers launched a new attack to hack his opponent’s personal emails, according to the latest indictments from special counsel Robert Mueller. It is maybe the most eyebrow-raising detail in an indictment filled with them. Mueller on Friday indicted 12 Russian intelligence officers for crimes related to the hacking and public release of Democratic emails to influence the 2016 presidential campaign. To be clear, the Russian hacking of people close to Clinton didn’t start on July 27, 2016, when Trump stood before the whole world and said he hoped Russia would “find the 30,000 emails that are missing ... I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.” Emails from the Democratic National Committee had already been hacked and leaked, and we would later learn that Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s email account had already been compromised. As Vox’s Andrew Prokop has previously explained, the email phishing expeditions against Democrats were already well underway by March 2016. That’s around the time that Podesta’s emails, which would play such a prominent role in the final months of the campaign, were infiltrated. So Trump’s comments can’t be claimed as the start of Russia’s digital attacks against American political parties and figures. But the timing is nevertheless uncanny. On July 27, Trump calls for Russia to find Clinton’s missing emails. That same day — “after hours” as the indictment notes, which strongly suggests this was after Trump’s statement — the hackers go after Clinton’s personal email. From the indictment: The conspirators spearphished individuals affiliated with the Clinton campaign through the summer of 2016. For example, on or about July 27, 2016, the conspirators attempted after hours to spearphish for the first time email accounts at a domain hosted by a third-party provider and used by Clinton’s personal office. At or around the same time, they also targeted seventy-six email addresses at the domain for the Clinton campaign. Trump’s brazen comment urging a foreign power to hack his opponent has always been difficult to decipher. Was it typical Trumpian bluster, at a time when hacked emails and Clinton’s email server had been huge news stories? Or was there something more sinister going on? The new Mueller indictment doesn’t provide a definitive answer. But it sure looks like when Trump asked Russia to find Hillary Clinton’s emails, Russian intelligence heard him. www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/7/13/17569264/mueller-indictment-trump-russia-email-hackYou asked for any evidence ans I gave it to you. Youre response was to tell me that there was open and public collusion now? This is a joke right ?
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Post by soonernvolved on Sept 3, 2018 9:30:02 GMT -6
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Post by oilsooner on Sept 3, 2018 10:16:36 GMT -6
The problem for the folks on the right in the never trump movement (who I assume is who were talking about here), is that they don’t have anyone better than Trump to get conservatives to vote for. So, it’s divide the party and lose or suck it up and support him. I mean, his policies are more conservative than not (and WAY more conservative than what the Dems are proposing). Basically, we saw how that went in 2016. The party will come together around Trump, if only to keep crazy dem sponsored socialism from becoming reality. tldr; the movement is a farce Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by trumped on Sept 3, 2018 10:29:40 GMT -6
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Post by Boots on Sept 3, 2018 10:46:13 GMT -6
I wish Trump would just go ahead and split off into a 3rd party already. The day he called out the GOP on something they had ran on for 8 years and could not get done was the death knell for them.
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Post by sooner8th on Sept 3, 2018 11:00:43 GMT -6
The problem for the folks on the right in the never trump movement (who I assume is who were talking about here), is that they don’t have anyone better than Trump to get conservatives to vote for. So, it’s divide the party and lose or suck it up and support him. I mean, his policies are more conservative than not (and WAY more conservative than what the Dems are proposing). Basically, we saw how that went in 2016. The party will come together around Trump, if only to keep crazy dem sponsored socialism from becoming reality. tldr; the movement is a farce Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You don't know what socialism is, just regurgitating rightwingnut talking points.
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Post by oilsooner on Sept 3, 2018 11:14:56 GMT -6
The problem for the folks on the right in the never trump movement (who I assume is who were talking about here), is that they don’t have anyone better than Trump to get conservatives to vote for. So, it’s divide the party and lose or suck it up and support him. I mean, his policies are more conservative than not (and WAY more conservative than what the Dems are proposing). Basically, we saw how that went in 2016. The party will come together around Trump, if only to keep crazy dem sponsored socialism from becoming reality. tldr; the movement is a farce Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You don't know what socialism is, just regurgitating rightwingnut talking points. Prove it. Any lemming can run around making unsubstantiated accusations. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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