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Post by oilsooner on Jun 7, 2018 11:22:43 GMT -6
Why would Hillary need to ruin Trump if she beat him in the election? Or, am I reading that wrong? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by trumped on Jun 7, 2018 11:26:27 GMT -6
This!
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Post by trumped on Jun 7, 2018 11:32:39 GMT -6
Why would Hillary need to ruin Trump if she beat him in the election? Or, am I reading that wrong? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk My guess is he was the only real threat to them. The other pubs were weak and controllable. Trump was someone who would get in the dirt along with Crooked Hillary and Obama and play tough. He knew all their tactics and crimes. To keep him from having ability to fight them even in a loss. Once in power Crooked Hillary would cover up but part of that would have been to silence Trump. He would have needed his money to fight them too. Also to keep him from runnimg again in 4 years against her. Just guessing tho. |
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Post by trumped on Jun 7, 2018 11:36:30 GMT -6
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Post by oilsooner on Jun 7, 2018 11:44:06 GMT -6
Why would Hillary need to ruin Trump if she beat him in the election? Or, am I reading that wrong? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk My guess is he was the only real threat to them. The other pubs were weak and controllable. Trump was someone who would get in the dirt along with Crooked Hillary and Obama and play tough. He knew all their tactics and crimes. To keep him from having ability to fight them even in a loss. Once in power Crooked Hillary would cover up but part of that would have been to silence Trump. He would have needed his money to fight them too. Also to keep him from runnimg again in 4 years against her. Just guessing tho. For sure. Could be. One post election prediction in which it was again proven how different reality is versus Dem claims: Prediction: Trump's only running to hype his own TV network after he loses Reality:  (not to mention Netfilx got 1 MILLION dislikes in ONE DAY with the Bill Nye fiasco, then they edited out the two chromosome bro-science Bill the Non Science guy pushed, bc 1984. Oh, and they claim Barack Obama's programs wont be political....who actually believes this bullshit???) |
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Post by soonernvolved on Jun 7, 2018 11:58:55 GMT -6
www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/06/07/carter_page_russian_spy__or_fbi_honor_scout.htmlIn an interview with RealClearInvestigations, Page insists that the [March 2016] interview in question – held at then-U.S. attorney Preet Bharara’s office in New York — had “absolutely nothing” to do with the Trump campaign or Russian collusion. Instead of being grilled about shadowy ties, he says he answered questions “related to events in 2013, in a case where I had served as a witness in support of the FBI.” In 2013, a Russian national working as an unregistered foreign agent at a Russian bank in Manhattan sought information from Page, a longtime energy consultant, related to U.S. efforts to develop alternative energy resources, according to court papers filed by the FBI. Although Page thought the man was a legitimate banker after meeting him at an energy symposium in New York City, he was a Russian agent under federal investigation. He was later caught on surveillance dismissing Page as an “idiot.” The FBI informed Page in 2013 that the Russians might be trying to recruit him. A U.S. Naval Academy alumnus, Page cooperated as a witness in that case, which was coordinated with the bureau’s Counterespionage Section Chief Peter Strzok in Washington, and he helped the government convict the Russian spy. Evgeny Buryakov pleaded guilty to espionage-related charges on March 11, 2016. FBI agents, as well as federal prosecutors, huddled with Page around that time to tie up loose ends, he said. “It had absolutely nothing to do with the election interference story, which surfaced months later,” Page said.
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Post by soonernvolved on Jun 7, 2018 15:02:05 GMT -6
Conflict of Interest much?
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Post by soonernvolved on Jun 7, 2018 15:03:49 GMT -6
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Post by soonernvolved on Jun 7, 2018 15:07:25 GMT -6
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Post by berniemadoff on Jun 7, 2018 15:09:03 GMT -6
It's early and my coffee hasn't kicked in: I didn't mean to say that you had called me your enemy. I mean that both parties do that to those who don't agree with them. You also have never said that my opinion didn't matter. I said that about myself. I apologize for giving that impression. As far as Mr. Pruitt I was trying to use him, poorly and unstated, as a hypothetical. When I said that my opinion didn't matter I meant that it would have no effect on Mr. Pruitt's status. Mr. Frum used a hypothetical. Not one that I would have used but a hypothetical none the less. I don't understand how a hypothetical can be a lie. A hypothetical can be absurd or offensive but I don't think it can be called a lie. I am realistic as to what this board is. It is my opinion that it is a board that consists of mainly Trump Supporters. Would you agree with that? Those of us who are critical of the President are considered, in my reading of your post, as being the other "side". With all due respect, I don't think I have a side. I am neither a Republican or a Democrat. Both parties are disgusting to me. I have never cast a vote for a Democratic Presidential Candidate and I sure as hell don't see anyone on the horizon who I could support. I realize there are going to be arguments and trolling. It is just my opinion that there is way too much trolling on this board. BTW, thanks for getting this board up and running. I may have criticisms of it but I am glad it is here. 1. First and foremost, really appreciate the post and thoughts. You are as welcome here as anyone else, and that goes for everyone. I do state "sides" and by that I guess I mean pro-Trump and anti-Trump, as those seem to be the prevailing differentiations of posters here. There just aren't enough liberals or progressives here to make it any more broad. Honestly, I wish we had more liberals and moderates, and am trying to make this place as accommodating as possible to attract them. We need that diversity of thought and opinion to make this place work. And, I think it's possible. You are absolutely right that this place is 80% Trump supporters, at the moment. I am also in that category, though I consider myself more of an independent American than a Pub or Trump supporter. Trump just happens to be the person currently pushing the closest to my ideologies, policy wise, so I am currently a Trump supporter. Regardless, criticism of Trump is considered, and even encouraged, as far as I'm concerned. If you (or anyone) ever see me get too riled up and not following that statement, please let me know. My beliefs are strong, but I still want to at least ensure the opposing view point is considered, and not outright ignored or laughed at (provided its a legit opinion and not an obvious troll). But, that's more for myself. Others are gonna do what they're gonna do, and I cant nor do I want to control that. I do agree there is a lot of trolling here, wished it was less, dont know what to do about it honestly. So, I work with it for now, and hope it works itself out as the board grows and we get a more broad poster base. I encourage anyone to invite their friends of any political ideology, as this board is not tied to OU or OK or Pub or Dem. Its open to everyone. Again, really appreciate your comment and angle. Oh, and both parties are disgusting to me as well. We agree on that basic fact, 100%. 2. I really do think Frump was trying to piggyback on the others who were saying Trump beat his wife, and stir up trouble. I dont think it was an honest statement, with no intent to hurt. He meant to be divisive and hurt. And, even if he didnt, many did. The hate for Trump is so strong that they will say he beats his wife without a second thought. They'd never say that to anyone in person because they know how serious a charge that is. But, they'll level it against the POTUS from behind a keyboard, because they know the worst ramifications are getting flamed on twitter. In person though, level baseless accusations long enough, and you'll get laid out. Thats why folks dont run around doing it in person. Now, I may be wrong about Frump because I dont know him from a hill of beans, but I know most who either said the same thing or retweeted it did it out of a position of hate. Wait...there were actually people who claimed that? Responsible people/journalists or just tweeter nobodies/trolls? I don't twit or go to any portion of the interwebs more seamy than this so I had no idea that people were actually saying that. The thought that the President would do that had never crossed my mind. If there was someone even in an even semi-serious position who said that please let me know who that is. I will never believe that person about anything. |
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Post by oilsooner on Jun 7, 2018 16:18:25 GMT -6
1. First and foremost, really appreciate the post and thoughts. You are as welcome here as anyone else, and that goes for everyone. I do state "sides" and by that I guess I mean pro-Trump and anti-Trump, as those seem to be the prevailing differentiations of posters here. There just aren't enough liberals or progressives here to make it any more broad. Honestly, I wish we had more liberals and moderates, and am trying to make this place as accommodating as possible to attract them. We need that diversity of thought and opinion to make this place work. And, I think it's possible. You are absolutely right that this place is 80% Trump supporters, at the moment. I am also in that category, though I consider myself more of an independent American than a Pub or Trump supporter. Trump just happens to be the person currently pushing the closest to my ideologies, policy wise, so I am currently a Trump supporter. Regardless, criticism of Trump is considered, and even encouraged, as far as I'm concerned. If you (or anyone) ever see me get too riled up and not following that statement, please let me know. My beliefs are strong, but I still want to at least ensure the opposing view point is considered, and not outright ignored or laughed at (provided its a legit opinion and not an obvious troll). But, that's more for myself. Others are gonna do what they're gonna do, and I cant nor do I want to control that. I do agree there is a lot of trolling here, wished it was less, dont know what to do about it honestly. So, I work with it for now, and hope it works itself out as the board grows and we get a more broad poster base. I encourage anyone to invite their friends of any political ideology, as this board is not tied to OU or OK or Pub or Dem. Its open to everyone. Again, really appreciate your comment and angle. Oh, and both parties are disgusting to me as well. We agree on that basic fact, 100%. 2. I really do think Frump was trying to piggyback on the others who were saying Trump beat his wife, and stir up trouble. I dont think it was an honest statement, with no intent to hurt. He meant to be divisive and hurt. And, even if he didnt, many did. The hate for Trump is so strong that they will say he beats his wife without a second thought. They'd never say that to anyone in person because they know how serious a charge that is. But, they'll level it against the POTUS from behind a keyboard, because they know the worst ramifications are getting flamed on twitter. In person though, level baseless accusations long enough, and you'll get laid out. Thats why folks dont run around doing it in person. Now, I may be wrong about Frump because I dont know him from a hill of beans, but I know most who either said the same thing or retweeted it did it out of a position of hate. Wait...there were actually people who claimed that? Responsible people/journalists or just tweeter nobodies/trolls? I don't twit or go to any portion of the interwebs more seamy than this so I had no idea that people were actually saying that. The thought that the President would do that had never crossed my mind. If there was someone even in an even semi-serious position who said that please let me know who that is. I will never believe that person about anything. For sure man...completely bonkers. Tweets and stories were everywhere a few days ago. I mean, my word, the woman just had kidney surgery. Leave her alone for a bit. These accusations forced her to come out publicly, prob before she was ready (since she hadnt yet on her own). The stories after she made an twitter post and appearance (basically saying she didnt write the tweet, etc) were almost as bad. The haters have gone bonkers, man. Rolling Stone Senior Writer:  |
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Post by trumped on Jun 7, 2018 18:37:06 GMT -6
^^^
These are ICKY paid leftist bots most likely except then you find out they are real people. There are some folks really off the far left edge.
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Post by okie52 on Jun 7, 2018 19:17:57 GMT -6
1. First and foremost, really appreciate the post and thoughts. You are as welcome here as anyone else, and that goes for everyone. I do state "sides" and by that I guess I mean pro-Trump and anti-Trump, as those seem to be the prevailing differentiations of posters here. There just aren't enough liberals or progressives here to make it any more broad. Honestly, I wish we had more liberals and moderates, and am trying to make this place as accommodating as possible to attract them. We need that diversity of thought and opinion to make this place work. And, I think it's possible. You are absolutely right that this place is 80% Trump supporters, at the moment. I am also in that category, though I consider myself more of an independent American than a Pub or Trump supporter. Trump just happens to be the person currently pushing the closest to my ideologies, policy wise, so I am currently a Trump supporter. Regardless, criticism of Trump is considered, and even encouraged, as far as I'm concerned. If you (or anyone) ever see me get too riled up and not following that statement, please let me know. My beliefs are strong, but I still want to at least ensure the opposing view point is considered, and not outright ignored or laughed at (provided its a legit opinion and not an obvious troll). But, that's more for myself. Others are gonna do what they're gonna do, and I cant nor do I want to control that. I do agree there is a lot of trolling here, wished it was less, dont know what to do about it honestly. So, I work with it for now, and hope it works itself out as the board grows and we get a more broad poster base. I encourage anyone to invite their friends of any political ideology, as this board is not tied to OU or OK or Pub or Dem. Its open to everyone. Again, really appreciate your comment and angle. Oh, and both parties are disgusting to me as well. We agree on that basic fact, 100%. 2. I really do think Frump was trying to piggyback on the others who were saying Trump beat his wife, and stir up trouble. I dont think it was an honest statement, with no intent to hurt. He meant to be divisive and hurt. And, even if he didnt, many did. The hate for Trump is so strong that they will say he beats his wife without a second thought. They'd never say that to anyone in person because they know how serious a charge that is. But, they'll level it against the POTUS from behind a keyboard, because they know the worst ramifications are getting flamed on twitter. In person though, level baseless accusations long enough, and you'll get laid out. Thats why folks dont run around doing it in person. Now, I may be wrong about Frump because I dont know him from a hill of beans, but I know most who either said the same thing or retweeted it did it out of a position of hate. Wait...there were actually people who claimed that? Responsible people/journalists or just tweeter nobodies/trolls? I don't twit or go to any portion of the interwebs more seamy than this so I had no idea that people were actually saying that. The thought that the President would do that had never crossed my mind. If there was someone even in an even semi-serious position who said that please let me know who that is. I will never believe that person about anything. Hey BERNIE HOWS it going? |
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Post by oilsooner on Jun 7, 2018 19:24:03 GMT -6
Wait...there were actually people who claimed that? Responsible people/journalists or just tweeter nobodies/trolls? I don't twit or go to any portion of the interwebs more seamy than this so I had no idea that people were actually saying that. The thought that the President would do that had never crossed my mind. If there was someone even in an even semi-serious position who said that please let me know who that is. I will never believe that person about anything. Hey BERNIE HOWS it going? You drinking an adult beverage tonight? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by okie52 on Jun 7, 2018 19:26:29 GMT -6
Yes. But posting seems to be a problem on quotes on my IPAD.
I blame obama, Comey, and those Neanderthals claiming to be the party of science
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Post by okie52 on Jun 7, 2018 19:28:47 GMT -6
Also that feckless cunt that was formerly a flying nun before she suffered dementia.
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Post by oilsooner on Jun 7, 2018 19:44:46 GMT -6
Yes. But posting seems to be a problem on quotes on my IPAD. I blame obama, Comey, and those Neanderthals claiming to be the party of science Fuck bro, check with Heff. He might be able to fix it. The evenings sipper:  Aarg, matey!! Lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by trumped on Jun 7, 2018 20:08:51 GMT -6
McCain is more left than some hard core lefties. Deep state crook
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Post by trumped on Jun 7, 2018 20:23:47 GMT -6
Nice
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Post by okie52 on Jun 7, 2018 20:29:55 GMT -6
I try to remember that McCain spent 5 years in a prison camp...certainly deserves plenty of praise for that.
But this last decade or so he’s been someone I detested. I voted for him in 2008 but would never do it again...
I hope he survives his cancer issues but I also hope he’ll resign so that we never have to see his sellout face in congress.
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Post by trumped on Jun 7, 2018 20:54:39 GMT -6
This thread of tweets is a great read. It is interesting where it leads to/feom:
First post of 58 tweet thread:
Link to this tweet list:
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Post by trumped on Jun 7, 2018 20:56:14 GMT -6
I try to remember that McCain spent 5 years in a prison camp...certainly deserves plenty of praise for that. But this last decade or so he’s been someone I detested. I voted for him in 2008 but would never do it again... I hope he survives his cancer issues but I also hope he’ll resign so that we never have to see his sellout face in congress. Read my prior post the Rex tweet thread. It seems he may be involved deeper than we thought. |
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Post by trumped on Jun 7, 2018 21:06:42 GMT -6
This seems important:
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Post by trumped on Jun 7, 2018 21:08:01 GMT -6
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Post by trumped on Jun 7, 2018 21:09:33 GMT -6
This huge
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Post by trumped on Jun 7, 2018 21:10:30 GMT -6
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Post by trumped on Jun 7, 2018 21:11:09 GMT -6
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Post by kcrufnek on Jun 7, 2018 21:56:31 GMT -6
Why would Hillary need to ruin Trump if she beat him in the election? Or, am I reading that wrong? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1. Ruin Crazy Bernie 2. With Trump as the nominee work to discredit him. 3. Develop insurance policy in case of him winning. 4. Once he wins do all that's possible to discredit his presidency and obstruct anything he may to accomplish. But let's remember all of this was to cover their own criminality and to cover up for Hillary once she became president. Most of this would not have seen the light of day had she won. |
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Post by soonernvolved on Jun 8, 2018 4:21:11 GMT -6
amp.dailycaller.com/2018/06/07/senate-staffer-indicted-leaks/The Department of Justice is expected to indict a former staffer on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence over an unauthorized disclosure of sensitive information. CNN and The Wall Street Journal report that the indictment will be handed down within days. The staffer has not been identified, though The Journal reported that he is 31 years old and has worked for both Democrats and Republicans. The Senate quietly passed a resolution on Wednesday to provide information for the case to the Justice Department. “The Select Committee on Intelligence has received a request from the Department of Justice for records pertinent to a pending investigation arising out of allegations of the unauthorized disclosure of information by a former employee of the Committee,” Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said in a statement for the congressional record on Wednesday. It is not clear if the information is classified or whether it is related to the committee’s investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential campaign.
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Post by soonernvolved on Jun 8, 2018 4:26:39 GMT -6
www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-06-07/top-senate-intel-staffer-arrested-leak-probe-nyt-journos-records-seizedLongtime former director of security for the Senate Intelligence Committee, James A. Wolfe, was indicted and arrested Thursday night on charges of giving false statements to FBI agents in 2017 about repeated contacts with three reporters, according to the Washington Examiner. Jim Wolfe, a longtime former director of security at the Senate Intelligence Committee, was indicted and arrested Thursday night for giving false statements to F.B.I. agents during their investigation into leaks of classified information to the media. According to the Department of Justice, Wolfe lied to F.B.I. agents back in 2017 "about his repeated contacts with three reporters, including through his use of encrypted messaging applications." Wolfe is also accused of making false statements about providing "non-public information related to matters occurring before the [Senate Intelligence Committee]" to two additional reporters. -Washington Examiner
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