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Post by trumped on May 23, 2018 16:45:29 GMT -6
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Post by trumped on May 23, 2018 16:54:36 GMT -6
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Post by soonernvolved on May 23, 2018 18:47:48 GMT -6
Michael Caputo: I gave the information to the House Intelligence Committee, the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Mueller invetigators, when I sat with them two weeks ago, three weeks ago, and they didn’t seem in the least bit interested… The investigators weren’t interested. They didn’t even take notes.
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Post by trumped on May 23, 2018 18:57:44 GMT -6
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Post by trumped on May 23, 2018 18:58:38 GMT -6
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Post by trumped on May 23, 2018 19:26:14 GMT -6
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Post by ou48a on May 23, 2018 21:05:14 GMT -6
In my very strong opinion this goes clear to the very top of the Obama White House.
Since mid-2009 I have said that Obama was the worst president in modern times….He was actually the very worst ever and most fully corrupt we have ever had…
I blame the leftist media... who are still defending the people who broke our laws for not fully investigating Obama's past…
The media is as corrupt and complicit as anyone else. They need to suffer the consequences in a big way!
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Post by ictsooner7 on May 23, 2018 21:51:36 GMT -6
I seriously can't be the only one contemplating declaring myself an enemy of the state and joining a militia at this point, can I?  Seth Rich "murder"? You are mentally ill. Get some help. |
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Post by trumped on May 23, 2018 22:45:32 GMT -6
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Post by trumped on May 23, 2018 22:48:45 GMT -6
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Post by #winning on May 23, 2018 23:53:39 GMT -6
In my very strong opinion this goes clear to the very top of the Obama White House. Since mid-2009 I have said that Obama was the worst president in modern times….He was actually the very worst ever and most fully corrupt we have ever had… I blame the leftist media... who are still defending the people who broke our laws for not fully investigating Obama's past… The media is as corrupt and complicit as anyone else. They need to suffer the consequences in a big way! Ben Rhodes openly bragged that the media would believe and repeat anything the administration said. Unfortunately for the left even the complicate media can no longer continue to cover everything up. Too many narratives are unraveling at the same time. Not from a lack of trying, mind you. Everyone was, of course, counting on a Hillary victory to make all of this go away. Hopefully enough people will talk so this will lead to the Oval Office. Too much went on that had to have had Obama's knowledge and approval. Group think only gets one so far. We have already seen the messages saying the WH is involved and Obama wants to be kept apprised of everything. Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Holder, Lynch, Hillary, et al are all involved and hopefully some will be held accountable. We have fabrication of evidence to smear a candidate and then discredit an incoming president. The more they try to throw the attention to Trump the more the light shines back on themselves. I knew the farther away we got from the Obama administration the more we would find out. People don't fear the Clintons and Obamas anymore. |
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 5:06:57 GMT -6
This does not shock me:
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 5:08:31 GMT -6
This didn’t age well:
Barack Obama: What I can say with confidence is that when it comes to our domestic operations, concerns that people have back home in the United States of America, that we do not surveil the American people or persons within the United States. That there are a lot of checks and balances in place designed to avoid a surveillance state.
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 5:12:01 GMT -6
Intelligence expert on Holder tweets:
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 5:14:51 GMT -6
Holder joined James Clapper, James Comey and John Brennan as the latest Obama official to freak out over the spygate scandal. One has to wonder why that is? amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/23/holder-urges-dojfbi-unconstitutionally-defy-presid/?__twitter_impression=trueFormer Attorney General Eric Holder publicly urged his former employees at the Justice Department to defy President Trump’s request for transparency and public disclosures of information related to the unprecedented spy operation launched in 2016 against the Trump campaign. Holder’s insistence that the DOJ and FBI “protect the institutions” rather than carry out their constitutional duties and protect the constitution, the document they actually swear to protect when entering their federal positions is telling and rather frightening. If one ever searched for a “deep state” smoking gun it appears Holder has offered it up. Protect the “Institution” of the Justice Department at the expense of the US Constitution. Defy the President’s orders for the sake of the governmental apparatus. |
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 5:20:23 GMT -6
dailycaller.com/2018/05/23/halper-false-russia-claims/FBI informant Stefan Halper said Russians infiltrated the Cambridge Intelligence Seminar He flagged interactions between a Russian researcher and Mike Flynn People involved called Halper’s claims “false” and “absurd” The FBI informant who made contact with members of the Trump campaign has made allegations of Russian spy infiltration at the University of Cambridge that people involved in the matters have called “false” and “absurd.” A Russian academic who worked at Cambridge with the informant, Stefan Halper, said he made “false allegations” about her interactions with former national security adviser Michael Flynn at an event the Cambridge Intelligence Seminar (CIS) hosted in February 2014. Halper’s claim in December 2016 that Russians infiltrated CIS has also been called “absurd” by Christopher Andrew, the official historian for MI5 and head of CIS, the Financial Times reported. www.ft.com/content/d43cd586-c396-11e6-9bca-2b93a6856354
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Post by ictsooner7 on May 24, 2018 5:30:45 GMT -6
Holder joined James Clapper, James Comey and John Brennan as the latest Obama official to freak out over the spygate scandal. One has to wonder why that is? amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/23/holder-urges-dojfbi-unconstitutionally-defy-presid/?__twitter_impression=trueFormer Attorney General Eric Holder publicly urged his former employees at the Justice Department to defy President Trump’s request for transparency and public disclosures of information related to the unprecedented spy operation launched in 2016 against the Trump campaign. Holder’s insistence that the DOJ and FBI “protect the institutions” rather than carry out their constitutional duties and protect the constitution, the document they actually swear to protect when entering their federal positions is telling and rather frightening. If one ever searched for a “deep state” smoking gun it appears Holder has offered it up. Protect the “Institution” of the Justice Department at the expense of the US Constitution. Defy the President’s orders for the sake of the governmental apparatus. James Clapper, James Comey and John Brennan all republicans. Conspiracy theory bullshit - go get some professional help. |
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 5:31:01 GMT -6
thefederalist.com/2018/05/23/sen-john-kennedy-mueller-investigation-needs-end/Sen. John Kennedy: The ‘Mueller Investigation Needs To End’ MAY 23, 2018 By Bre Payton In a statement released Wednesday, Sen. John Kennedy, who sits on the Senate Judiciary Committee, called for the ongoing Department of Justice probe led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller to end. “It’s time to wrap things up,” Kennedy said. “The investigation is important, but so are many other issues, from which the investigation distracts in time, energy, and taxpayer money.” “Respectfully, Mr. Mueller needs to start winding things down and report his findings to the American people,” Kennedy said about the ongoing, year-old probe into whether Trump and his campaign associates colluded with Russian officials to steal the election from Hillary Clinton. “I trust them to draw their own conclusions about Mr. Mueller’s report.” Kennedy isn’t the only senator who has been urging Mueller to conclude the investigation. In a radio interview last week, Sen. Bill Cassidy said he hoped it would end soon. Last week, Sen. Chuck Grassley, who also sits on the Judiciary Committee, sent a typed, seven-page, single-spaced letter to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein filled with questions about why Mueller was appointed to lead the investigation. On Monday, he asked for all communications between Bruce Ohr, a demoted DOJ official, and Christopher Steele, who put together a dossier filled with salacious and unverified claims about Donald Trump. The dossier was also funded by the Democratic National Committee and Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign. Ohr was demoted last year shortly after news broke that his wife was hired to dig up dirt on Trump by Fusion GPS, the same firm that put together the infamous dossier. News reports revealed that Ohr had secretly met together with his wife and Steele to discuss the dossier during the 2016 campaign and that the DOJ official was aware of Steele’s political bias against Trump, but did not report it to the DOJ. www.kennedy.senate.gov/public/press-releases?ID=A2F57254-F621-4E31-B6F4-4EB4F8CD3A81
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 5:34:32 GMT -6
Holder joined James Clapper, James Comey and John Brennan as the latest Obama official to freak out over the spygate scandal. One has to wonder why that is? amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/23/holder-urges-dojfbi-unconstitutionally-defy-presid/?__twitter_impression=trueFormer Attorney General Eric Holder publicly urged his former employees at the Justice Department to defy President Trump’s request for transparency and public disclosures of information related to the unprecedented spy operation launched in 2016 against the Trump campaign. Holder’s insistence that the DOJ and FBI “protect the institutions” rather than carry out their constitutional duties and protect the constitution, the document they actually swear to protect when entering their federal positions is telling and rather frightening. If one ever searched for a “deep state” smoking gun it appears Holder has offered it up. Protect the “Institution” of the Justice Department at the expense of the US Constitution. Defy the President’s orders for the sake of the governmental apparatus. James Clapper, James Comey and John Brennan all republicans. Conspiracy theory bullshit - go get some professional help. We get it. Your side thought they had President Trump, but this whole thing blew up in your face and is now turning against you by revealing the abuses of a former administration. Again, seek help for your TDS. |
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 5:36:04 GMT -6
thefederalist.com/2018/05/23/the-medias-defense-of-obama-administration-spying-defies-logic/The Media’s Defense Of Obama Administration Spying Defies Logic You don't have to be a Donald Trump fan to be concerned about the abuses of intelligence agencies. David Harsanyi By David Harsanyi MAY 23, 2018 It doesn’t matter what you think about Donald Trump — revelations that a major party’s administration was spying on another one deserve a seriousness that’s lacking in major media coverage. A recent piece by CNN’s Chris Cillizza encapsulates many of the absurd talking points adopted by an extraordinarily incurious media. And when I say incurious, I mean they’ve taken to actively dismissing evidence regarding a story that would be a huge deal in any other era. Trump asked the Justice Department this week to expand an inspector general report into the conduct of the Obama administration’s actions during the 2016 election. Many supposed champions of transparency, process, and law enforcement were upset. “If Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch meeting on a tarmac in 2016 bothered you,” asks Cillizza, “then why doesn’t Donald Trump telling the Justice Department what to do in 2018 bother you?” Well, for starters, Bill Clinton wasn’t the president of the United States. Trump happens to be president of the United States, a position that also happens to make him the superior of the intelligence officials he was meeting with openly at the White House. No matter how offended you are by the president’s hyperbole, meeting with these subordinates — asking them to share information with congressional committees and open an internal DOJ investigation — isn’t an abuse of power by any conception of the idea. Secondly, when the nation’s top law enforcement official met with the former president and husband of the presumptive Democratic Party nominee, his wife, herself a former member of the Obama administration, was the focus of a federal criminal investigation. That investigation uncovered illegality that a candidate had been personally involved in. According to James Comey, Lynch, who, despite what you may have heard, never formally recused herself from the Hillary investigation, also never stopped trying to influence the Clinton investigation. Moreover, Trump did not meet officials in secret or demand they shut down any investigation. Bill Clinton, a powerhouse fundraiser and major presence in the Democratic Party, sought out the attorney general of the United States and waited for her in a private jet on a tarmac. The meeting was only accidentally discovered by local media. Both Lynch and Clinton claimed afterwards they didn’t even mention — not once — the probe into Hillary. That’s quite astonishing considering it was only a day before Congress was set to release the Benghazi report. It wasn’t the end of the world, but it was highly improper. And if you think these two events are similar, you’re not seeing things clearly. Cillizza also claims that the president “is pressuring the nation’s law enforcement bodies to investigate a story with questionable roots and that does not appear to be born out by facts.” Here’s something he might not know: the president doesn’t have to pressure them, he can simply order them to investigate. They can quit, and should if Trump is leading them to some corrupt rabbit hole. Or they can open an inspector general investigation, and stop stonewalling congressional investigators and offer the American people some transparency about the 2016 election. The persistent claim that Trump is abusing power for engaging in actions that are well within his purview is especially galling coming from people who would often characterize the previous administration’s numerous abuses as nothing. Even today we are relegated to a Clintonian parsing of words to describe events. “The President of the United States is alleging, with zero evidence,” writes Cillizza, “that the FBI secretly planted an informant in his 2016 campaign for the express purpose of spying on him.” Cillizza highlights the president’s hyperbolic — and premature — assertions (“SPYGATE”) to dismiss the entire event. It’s true that we don’t know if an informant was “planted” or “embedded,” but we do know that flimsy partisan evidence was likely used to spark the investigation into “collusion” and that the Obama administration “spied” on the Trump campaign. Many journalists take umbrage at the contention that there was spying going on, because “spying” sounds far too serious for their liking. But it’s the right word. A spy is a “person who secretly collects and reports information on the activities, movements, and plans of an enemy or competitor.”
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 5:40:03 GMT -6
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Post by oilsooner on May 24, 2018 5:44:19 GMT -6
Oh, it’s on now. Clapper, Comey, McCabe, Holder, et al. too arrogant to realize there actually are people in the FBI who care about Truth, Justice, and the American Way.  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Post by principledcon on May 24, 2018 6:13:35 GMT -6
How is it not treason to explain what many of them did?
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Post by #winning on May 24, 2018 6:28:25 GMT -6
Holder joined James Clapper, James Comey and John Brennan as the latest Obama official to freak out over the spygate scandal. One has to wonder why that is? amp.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/23/holder-urges-dojfbi-unconstitutionally-defy-presid/?__twitter_impression=trueFormer Attorney General Eric Holder publicly urged his former employees at the Justice Department to defy President Trump’s request for transparency and public disclosures of information related to the unprecedented spy operation launched in 2016 against the Trump campaign. Holder’s insistence that the DOJ and FBI “protect the institutions” rather than carry out their constitutional duties and protect the constitution, the document they actually swear to protect when entering their federal positions is telling and rather frightening. If one ever searched for a “deep state” smoking gun it appears Holder has offered it up. Protect the “Institution” of the Justice Department at the expense of the US Constitution. Defy the President’s orders for the sake of the governmental apparatus. James Clapper, James Comey and John Brennan all republicans. Conspiracy theory bullshit - go get some professional help. Yeah. Keep riding that horse. |
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 6:51:04 GMT -6
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 7:23:12 GMT -6
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 7:26:36 GMT -6
A different take on the subject: dailycaller.com/2018/05/24/give-mueller-time-we-know-kremlin-interfered-in-2016-election/After 17 Indictments And Five Guilty Pleas, We KNOW The Kremlin Interfered With The 2016 Election Photo of Jennifer Horn JENNIFER HORN Former Chairman, New Hampshire Republican Party 2:24 AM 05/2 ........... We recently marked the one-year anniversary of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into alleged Russian collusion—an investigation that has yielded 17 indictments, five guilty pleas, and constant headaches for Donald Trump’s presidential administration. President Trump commemorated the occasion as only he could, with another angry, misleading tweet intended to rile up his base, denouncing the Russia investigation as a “witch hunt.” In an attempt to delegitimize the Mueller probe, the president has tweeted about a “witch hunt” 39 times since it began. His supporters, meanwhile, continue to levy personal attacks against Mueller to erode the special counsel’s longstanding support among Republicans. Counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway recently appeared on Fox and Friends with a clear threat: “I think those who have been digging and conjecturing for over a year should be careful what they wish for.” Pro-Trump journalist Sara Carter made the ludicrous accusation that Mueller protected Mafia informant Whitey Bulger while serving as a federal prosecutor in Boston during the 1980s. She then shared the unfounded allegations with Sean Hannity. Adam Gingrich, who worked for the Trump campaign in Pennsylvania, introduced the Twitter hashtags #RiseUp and #FireMueller. –– ADVERTISEMENT –– The conservative media — a constant thorn in President Bill Clinton’s side during Ken Starr’s investigation in the 1990s — has been all too willing to undermine the rule of law two decades later. Echoing the man in the White House, Fox News’ Tucker Carlson consistently decries the Mueller investigation as a “partisan witch hunt,” claiming it is “designed to topple a president.” If Mueller is indeed a “partisan” Democrat, then he’s done a remarkable job of hiding it. A longtime Republican, Mueller led the Justice Department’s criminal division under President George H.W. Bush and served as Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation under his son, President George W. Bush. He has never once criticized President Trump on the record. Pro-Trump Republicans should be ashamed of themselves for slandering an honest man and smearing his investigation to score cheap political points. For decades, the Republican Party has stood for the rule of law, cognizant of the need to hold our elected officials to a higher standard of accountability. It is one of the reasons why I myself am a Republican. Regardless of whether the Trump campaign actually colluded with the Russian government, the investigation must run its course. After 17 indictments and five guilty pleas, we know that the Kremlin interfered with the 2016 election. The special counsel must be given as much time as necessary to determine if and to what degree the Trump campaign may have been involved. Republicans have always pursued the truth. After the 2012 Benghazi attack that cost four American lives, Republicans demanded an investigation into then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s role in our failure to defend the U.S. embassy. As Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) put it: “I remain convinced our fellow citizens deserve all of the facts of what happened before, during, and after the attacks in Benghazi and they deserve an investigative process worthy of the memory of those who died and worthy of the trust of our fellow citizens.” And he got one: The Benghazi investigation lasted two years and cost more than $7 million. When Clinton’s 2016 email scandal suggested gross negligence on her part, Republicans again demanded the truth. At a rally in my home state, then-candidate Donald Trump claimed Clinton’s “corruption is on a scale we have never seen before,” describing her mishandling of 33,000 emails as “bigger than Watergate.” Even now, House Republicans continue to probe Clinton’s use of a private email server for State Department business years ago. Surely the integrity of American elections is worthy of a tireless pursuit of the truth. |
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 7:29:45 GMT -6
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Post by redstripe on May 24, 2018 7:55:55 GMT -6
A different take on the subject: dailycaller.com/2018/05/24/give-mueller-time-we-know-kremlin-interfered-in-2016-election/After 17 Indictments And Five Guilty Pleas, We KNOW The Kremlin Interfered With The 2016 Election Photo of Jennifer Horn JENNIFER HORN Former Chairman, New Hampshire Republican Party 2:24 AM 05/2 ........... We recently marked the one-year anniversary of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into alleged Russian collusion—an investigation that has yielded 17 indictments, five guilty pleas, and constant headaches for Donald Trump’s presidential administration. President Trump commemorated the occasion as only he could, with another angry, misleading tweet intended to rile up his base, denouncing the Russia investigation as a “witch hunt.” In an attempt to delegitimize the Mueller probe, the president has tweeted about a “witch hunt” 39 times since it began. His supporters, meanwhile, continue to levy personal attacks against Mueller to erode the special counsel’s longstanding support among Republicans. Counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway recently appeared on Fox and Friends with a clear threat: “I think those who have been digging and conjecturing for over a year should be careful what they wish for.” Pro-Trump journalist Sara Carter made the ludicrous accusation that Mueller protected Mafia informant Whitey Bulger while serving as a federal prosecutor in Boston during the 1980s. She then shared the unfounded allegations with Sean Hannity. Adam Gingrich, who worked for the Trump campaign in Pennsylvania, introduced the Twitter hashtags #RiseUp and #FireMueller. –– ADVERTISEMENT –– The conservative media — a constant thorn in President Bill Clinton’s side during Ken Starr’s investigation in the 1990s — has been all too willing to undermine the rule of law two decades later. Echoing the man in the White House, Fox News’ Tucker Carlson consistently decries the Mueller investigation as a “partisan witch hunt,” claiming it is “designed to topple a president.” If Mueller is indeed a “partisan” Democrat, then he’s done a remarkable job of hiding it. A longtime Republican, Mueller led the Justice Department’s criminal division under President George H.W. Bush and served as Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation under his son, President George W. Bush. He has never once criticized President Trump on the record. Pro-Trump Republicans should be ashamed of themselves for slandering an honest man and smearing his investigation to score cheap political points. For decades, the Republican Party has stood for the rule of law, cognizant of the need to hold our elected officials to a higher standard of accountability. It is one of the reasons why I myself am a Republican. Regardless of whether the Trump campaign actually colluded with the Russian government, the investigation must run its course. After 17 indictments and five guilty pleas, we know that the Kremlin interfered with the 2016 election. The special counsel must be given as much time as necessary to determine if and to what degree the Trump campaign may have been involved. Republicans have always pursued the truth. After the 2012 Benghazi attack that cost four American lives, Republicans demanded an investigation into then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s role in our failure to defend the U.S. embassy. As Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-SC) put it: “I remain convinced our fellow citizens deserve all of the facts of what happened before, during, and after the attacks in Benghazi and they deserve an investigative process worthy of the memory of those who died and worthy of the trust of our fellow citizens.” And he got one: The Benghazi investigation lasted two years and cost more than $7 million. When Clinton’s 2016 email scandal suggested gross negligence on her part, Republicans again demanded the truth. At a rally in my home state, then-candidate Donald Trump claimed Clinton’s “corruption is on a scale we have never seen before,” describing her mishandling of 33,000 emails as “bigger than Watergate.” Even now, House Republicans continue to probe Clinton’s use of a private email server for State Department business years ago. Surely the integrity of American elections is worthy of a tireless pursuit of the truth. My favorite defense. But but but he's a Republican!!! Nice article ms Whorn |
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Post by soonernvolved on May 24, 2018 8:18:49 GMT -6
Still awaiting proof of this:
James Clapper: Since I left government in my informed opinion that given the massive effort the Russians made and the number of citizens that they touched and the variety and multidimensional aspects of what they did to influence opinion and affect election and given the fact that it turned on less than 80,000 votes in three states, to me it exceeds logic and credulity that they didn’t affect the election. And it’s my belief that they actually turned it.
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