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Post by sooner8th on Aug 30, 2018 11:21:23 GMT -6
Who says im a vet? I don't have faux outrage over the treatment of vets. I'm still pissed about how your party treated kerry and duckworth while it supports and defends cowards like trump, bush, cheney ect. He meant "you" as in the general sense of the term. Meaning, "vets are not immune to criticism".
But you're correct, they are hypocritical about it and use it for their own advantage. As do Dems.
Had Chris Kyle been a Dem and Jessie Ventura a Pub, their whole narrative would have been different. And the liberal MSM is using Trump's disrespect of McCain for their political agenda as well.
Show me where dems are critical of vets. Show me where dems lied about military service and mocked a combat wounded vet. And the liberal MSM is using Trump's disrespect of McCain for their political agenda as well? Is that your concern? You don't care he is doing it - yet another victim status for the right.
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Post by 1tc on Aug 30, 2018 11:30:42 GMT -6
He meant "you" as in the general sense of the term. Meaning, "vets are not immune to criticism".
But you're correct, they are hypocritical about it and use it for their own advantage. As do Dems.
Had Chris Kyle been a Dem and Jessie Ventura a Pub, their whole narrative would have been different. And the liberal MSM is using Trump's disrespect of McCain for their political agenda as well.
Show me where dems are critical of vets. Show me where dems lied about military service and mocked a combat wounded vet. And the liberal MSM is using Trump's disrespect of McCain for their political agenda as well? Is that your concern? You don't care he is doing it - yet another victim status for the right. Dan Rather says ‘Hello!’
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Post by oilsooner on Aug 30, 2018 11:40:26 GMT -6
You are not immune to critism just because you are a veteran! Knock it off with faux outrage over the treatment of vets. Who says im a vet? I don't have faux outrage over the treatment of vets. I'm still pissed about how your party treated kerry and duckworth while it supports and defends cowards like trump, bush, cheney ect. Because there’s more to ones story than their veteran status. As I’m sure most (all) vets would tell you. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Post by okirishfan on Aug 30, 2018 11:41:14 GMT -6
Show me where dems are critical of vets. Show me where dems lied about military service and mocked a combat wounded vet. And the liberal MSM is using Trump's disrespect of McCain for their political agenda as well? Is that your concern? You don't care he is doing it - yet another victim status for the right. Dan Rather says ‘Hello!’ I didn't say Dems disrespect vets....I said they use them to their own advantage. The MSM (mostly comprised of liberals) are using this to their advantage. Had Trump never disrespected McCain and wasn't such a douche, the MSM wouldn't be making as big of a deal about it.
I didn't say it was a concern....I was simply being truthful about an observation.
I didn't say I didn't care that Trump "was doing it".....I don't even know how to respond to this. If you think I don't care, you haven't been paying attention to anything in this thread.
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Post by 1tc on Aug 30, 2018 11:47:08 GMT -6
I didn't say Dems disrespect vets....I said they use them to their own advantage. The MSM (mostly comprised of liberals) are using this to their advantage. Had Trump never disrespected McCain and wasn't such a douche, the MSM wouldn't be making as big of a deal about it.
I didn't say it was a concern....I was simply being truthful about an observation.
I didn't say I didn't care that Trump "was doing it".....I don't even know how to respond to this. If you think I don't care, you haven't been paying attention to anything in this thread.
I quoted 8thGrade, why are you replying to me using, ‘I’? Hmmmmmm
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Post by okirishfan on Aug 30, 2018 11:48:39 GMT -6
I didn't say Dems disrespect vets....I said they use them to their own advantage. The MSM (mostly comprised of liberals) are using this to their advantage. Had Trump never disrespected McCain and wasn't such a douche, the MSM wouldn't be making as big of a deal about it.
I didn't say it was a concern....I was simply being truthful about an observation.
I didn't say I didn't care that Trump "was doing it".....I don't even know how to respond to this. If you think I don't care, you haven't been paying attention to anything in this thread.
I quoted 8thGrade, why are you replying to me using, ‘I’? Hmmmmmm Hit the wrong button. Intended for 8th
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Post by 1tc on Aug 30, 2018 11:49:31 GMT -6
I quoted 8thGrade, why are you replying to me using, ‘I’? Hmmmmmm Hit the wrong button. Intended for 8th Fair enough, kind sir.
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Post by boots on Aug 30, 2018 11:53:06 GMT -6
He meant "you" as in the general sense of the term. Meaning, "vets are not immune to criticism".
But you're correct, they are hypocritical about it and use it for their own advantage. As do Dems.
Had Chris Kyle been a Dem and Jessie Ventura a Pub, their whole narrative would have been different. And the liberal MSM is using Trump's disrespect of McCain for their political agenda as well.
Show me where dems are critical of vets. Show me where dems lied about military service and mocked a combat wounded vet. And the liberal MSM is using Trump's disrespect of McCain for their political agenda as well? Is that your concern? You don't care he is doing it - yet another victim status for the right. ![](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-I259eAwTDJU/UDkbzR42QnI/AAAAAAAAA-s/B7bK2bGLIM0/s1600/Baby%2BKillers.jpeg) ![](http://us-infantry.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/1045194_f520.jpg)
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Post by soonernvolved on Aug 30, 2018 13:29:21 GMT -6
Yet, President Trump is the bad guy: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6114651/McCain-warns-Trump-Russia-documentary-set-released-week-death.htmlSenator John McCain appears in an upcoming documentary filmed before his death warning the United States about president Donald Trump and his ties to Russia. In a clip of Jack Bryan’s Active Matters, McCain joins Hillary Clinton, Yahoo News chief investigative corespondent Michael Isikoff and others as they discuss Trump, the 2016 presidential election and Russian president Vladimir Putin. The documentary debuts in theaters on August 31, less than a week after McCain died from brain cancer. ‘The fact that there was an attack on the fundamental—the absolute fundamental—a free and fair election, should alarm all of us,’ McCain says in a clip obtained by The Daily Beast. McCain is referring to numerous reports alleging that the Russian government meddled in the 2016 election, something Putin denies. Special counsel Robert Mueller has spent the past few months investigating the alleged collusion. Isikoff appears in the film saying that possible Russian involvement ‘spooked officials in the White House’. ‘And that’s the moment, I think, that the enormity of the Russian influence campaign really started to hit home,’ he added. Clinton added: ‘People were seeing this dangerous, troubling activity coming from the Russians that was actually in our electoral system.’
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Post by politicalmexininja on Aug 30, 2018 14:37:49 GMT -6
Yet, President Trump is the bad guy: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6114651/McCain-warns-Trump-Russia-documentary-set-released-week-death.htmlSenator John McCain appears in an upcoming documentary filmed before his death warning the United States about president Donald Trump and his ties to Russia. In a clip of Jack Bryan’s Active Matters, McCain joins Hillary Clinton, Yahoo News chief investigative corespondent Michael Isikoff and others as they discuss Trump, the 2016 presidential election and Russian president Vladimir Putin. The documentary debuts in theaters on August 31, less than a week after McCain died from brain cancer. ‘The fact that there was an attack on the fundamental—the absolute fundamental—a free and fair election, should alarm all of us,’ McCain says in a clip obtained by The Daily Beast. McCain is referring to numerous reports alleging that the Russian government meddled in the 2016 election, something Putin denies. Special counsel Robert Mueller has spent the past few months investigating the alleged collusion. Isikoff appears in the film saying that possible Russian involvement ‘spooked officials in the White House’. ‘And that’s the moment, I think, that the enormity of the Russian influence campaign really started to hit home,’ he added. Clinton added: ‘People were seeing this dangerous, troubling activity coming from the Russians that was actually in our electoral system.’ That might be the most hypocritical 'documentary' ever.....and their sheep actually believe it despite ALL evidence pointing to their lying, hypocritical leaders....LOL
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Post by oilsooner on Aug 30, 2018 15:09:01 GMT -6
Yet, President Trump is the bad guy: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6114651/McCain-warns-Trump-Russia-documentary-set-released-week-death.htmlSenator John McCain appears in an upcoming documentary filmed before his death warning the United States about president Donald Trump and his ties to Russia. In a clip of Jack Bryan’s Active Matters, McCain joins Hillary Clinton, Yahoo News chief investigative corespondent Michael Isikoff and others as they discuss Trump, the 2016 presidential election and Russian president Vladimir Putin. The documentary debuts in theaters on August 31, less than a week after McCain died from brain cancer. ‘The fact that there was an attack on the fundamental—the absolute fundamental—a free and fair election, should alarm all of us,’ McCain says in a clip obtained by The Daily Beast. McCain is referring to numerous reports alleging that the Russian government meddled in the 2016 election, something Putin denies. Special counsel Robert Mueller has spent the past few months investigating the alleged collusion. Isikoff appears in the film saying that possible Russian involvement ‘spooked officials in the White House’. ‘And that’s the moment, I think, that the enormity of the Russian influence campaign really started to hit home,’ he added. Clinton added: ‘People were seeing this dangerous, troubling activity coming from the Russians that was actually in our electoral system.’ That might be the most hypocritical 'documentary' ever.....and their sheep actually believe it despite ALL evidence pointing to their lying, hypocritical leaders....LOL No doubt. They misspelled "propaganda."
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Post by sooner8th on Aug 30, 2018 16:06:14 GMT -6
Show me where dems are critical of vets. Show me where dems lied about military service and mocked a combat wounded vet. And the liberal MSM is using Trump's disrespect of McCain for their political agenda as well? Is that your concern? You don't care he is doing it - yet another victim status for the right. Dan Rather says ‘Hello!’ Dan Rather huh........if they fired everyone on faux "news" who released a new story that was not factual they would go through anchors weekly.
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Post by sooner8th on Aug 30, 2018 16:11:31 GMT -6
I didn't say Dems disrespect vets....I said they use them to their own advantage. The MSM (mostly comprised of liberals) are using this to their advantage. Had Trump never disrespected McCain and wasn't such a douche, the MSM wouldn't be making as big of a deal about it.
I didn't say it was a concern....I was simply being truthful about an observation.
I didn't say I didn't care that Trump "was doing it".....I don't even know how to respond to this. If you think I don't care, you haven't been paying attention to anything in this thread.
For years pubs beat dems over the head with hating vet and military. Then when it suits their needs pub MAKE SHIT UP. Total lies and stick with them. Dem just stick to reality. The point is this, pubs are hypocrites, just as soon as they can use it they will lie or insult a vet, usually when the person lying or insulting, didn't want to go serve.
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Post by oilsooner on Aug 30, 2018 16:21:49 GMT -6
I didn't say Dems disrespect vets....I said they use them to their own advantage. The MSM (mostly comprised of liberals) are using this to their advantage. Had Trump never disrespected McCain and wasn't such a douche, the MSM wouldn't be making as big of a deal about it.
I didn't say it was a concern....I was simply being truthful about an observation.
I didn't say I didn't care that Trump "was doing it".....I don't even know how to respond to this. If you think I don't care, you haven't been paying attention to anything in this thread.
For years pubs beat dems over the head with hating vet and military. Then when it suits their needs pub MAKE SHIT UP. Total lies and stick with them. Dem just stick to reality. The point is this, pubs are hypocrites, just as soon as they can use it they will lie or insult a vet, usually when the person lying or insulting, didn't want to go serve. Yeah, because Dem's didn't rip McCain mercilessly until he got into it with Trump. Hell, they were downright nice to him when he was running for president, weren't they?? And "dems just stick to reality." If you really believe that, you're dumber than I thought you were.
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Post by 1tc on Aug 30, 2018 16:37:44 GMT -6
Dan Rather huh........if they fired everyone on faux "news" who released a new story that was not factual they would go through anchors weekly. Really bad whataboutism. Try again.
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Post by 1tc on Aug 30, 2018 16:39:41 GMT -6
I didn't say Dems disrespect vets....I said they use them to their own advantage. The MSM (mostly comprised of liberals) are using this to their advantage. Had Trump never disrespected McCain and wasn't such a douche, the MSM wouldn't be making as big of a deal about it.
I didn't say it was a concern....I was simply being truthful about an observation.
I didn't say I didn't care that Trump "was doing it".....I don't even know how to respond to this. If you think I don't care, you haven't been paying attention to anything in this thread.
For years pubs beat dems over the head with hating vet and military. Then when it suits their needs pub MAKE SHIT UP. Total lies and stick with them. Dem just stick to reality. The point is this, pubs are hypocrites, just as soon as they can use it they will lie or insult a vet, usually when the person lying or insulting, didn't want to go serve. You literally just described your actions while attempting to project them on a group of people. You. You are and have done those things.
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Post by redrex1 on Aug 30, 2018 16:57:58 GMT -6
I didn't say Dems disrespect vets....I said they use them to their own advantage. The MSM (mostly comprised of liberals) are using this to their advantage. Had Trump never disrespected McCain and wasn't such a douche, the MSM wouldn't be making as big of a deal about it.
I didn't say it was a concern....I was simply being truthful about an observation.
I didn't say I didn't care that Trump "was doing it".....I don't even know how to respond to this. If you think I don't care, you haven't been paying attention to anything in this thread.
For years pubs beat dems over the head with hating vet and military. Then when it suits their needs pub MAKE SHIT UP. Total lies and stick with them. Dem just stick to reality. The point is this, pubs are hypocrites, just as soon as they can use it they will lie or insult a vet, usually when the person lying or insulting, didn't want to go serve. "Dem stick to reality"-------Still laughing
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Post by kcrufnek on Aug 30, 2018 18:00:53 GMT -6
John Kerry, Bob Kerrey's given name is Joseph Robert Kerrey. Both combat wounded vets in the navy. I read that that confusion happens a lot. Basically throw a rock and hit a demcrats who service in country in Nam. I will treat you like republicans treat democrats who served and how trump is treating mccain. Bob Kerry was a senator from Nebraska. A war hero. Used to bang Debra winger. John Kerry is a coward and a traitor. No confusion here.
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Post by kcrufnek on Aug 30, 2018 18:06:50 GMT -6
biden is going to show what a president looks like and how a president should act ![](https://i.imgur.com/9Wf6jcL.jpg) ![](https://i.imgur.com/w72dr6c.jpg)
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Post by kcrufnek on Aug 30, 2018 18:08:30 GMT -6
Dan Rather huh........if they fired everyone on faux "news" who released a new story that was not factual they would go through anchors weekly. Rather fabricated a story trying to change the outcome of a presidential election.
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Post by sooner8th on Aug 30, 2018 21:47:13 GMT -6
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Post by sooner8th on Aug 30, 2018 21:49:41 GMT -6
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Post by sooner8th on Aug 30, 2018 22:00:32 GMT -6
Class -
7 Of The Most Heartbreaking Moments From Joe Biden's Eulogy For John McCain
Former Vice President Joe Biden honored the memory of Sen. John McCain at a memorial service at the North Phoenix Baptist Church in Arizona on Thursday.
Biden gave an emotional eulogy for McCain, who died at the age of 81 on Saturday after a battle with brain cancer. They had a decadeslong friendship that began in the early days of their time in Washington. The former vice president’s speech was a powerful reflection on McCain’s life and legacy as the nation mourns his loss.
“To paraphrase Shakespeare, we shall not see his like again,” Biden said.
Here are some of the most heartbreaking moments of Biden’s eulogy.
On Their Shared, Silent Pain McCain and Biden were both young men who experienced hardship and loss early in their lives. McCain endured torture as a prisoner of war in Vietnam while he was serving the Navy. Biden lost his first wife and their young daughter in a car crash in 1972, just a month after winning his first Senate race in Delaware.
Both men met shortly after their personal tragedies, when McCain served as a Navy liaison for the Senate, but they never touched on their pasts, Biden said.
“And we would sit on that plane, late into the night while everyone else was asleep, and just talk, getting to know one another,” Biden said. “We’d talk about family. We’d talk about politics. We’d talk about international relations. We’d talk about promise.”
“We talked about everything but captivity and the loss of my family, which had just occurred, my wife and daughter,” he continued. “The only two things we didn’t talk about.”
On The Early Days Of Their Friendship Biden recounted the years early in his career that he spent getting to know McCain, telling the crowd they “just hit it off.” The former vice president told stories of the friendship McCain had with Biden’s sons and second wife, Jill Biden.
“As a young man, he’d come up to my house, he’d come to Wilmington, and out of this grew a great friendship that transcended whatever political differences we had or later developed. Because above all, we understood the same thing. That all politics is personal. It’s all about trust. And I trusted John with my life,” Biden said.
On How Much Cancer Sucks Beau Biden, one of Joe Biden’s children, died in 2015 from glioblastoma, the same rare brain cancer that McCain was diagnosed with last year. The former vice president spoke candidly about something universal: how much cancer sucks.
“We both knew then from our different experiences ... that there are times when life can be so cruel — pain so blinding, it’s hard to see anything else,” Joe Biden said. “The disease that took John’s life, took our mutual friend Teddy [Kennedy]’s life nine years ago, and three years ago, it took my beautiful son Beau’s life.”
“It’s brutal, it’s relentless, it’s unforgiving. And it takes so much from those we love and the families who love them that in order to survive, we have to remember how they lived, not how they died,” Biden continued.
On The Loss Of McCain As ‘All Consuming’ In his speech, Biden captured the feeling of grief, describing the absence of McCain as “all consuming.” Biden addressed the McCain family directly on what they may be feeling.
“It’s like being sucked into a black hole inside your chest, and it’s frightening,” Biden said. “And I know something else, unfortunately, from experience: that there’s nothing anyone can say or do to ease the pain right now. But I pray you take some comfort knowing that because you shared John with all of us your whole life, the world now shares with you the ache of John’s death.”
On The Times They Gave Each Other Advice Biden managed to bring some levity to his emotional speech, telling stories of times the two senators would talk to each other in a brutally honest fashion.
″Whenever I was in trouble, John was the first guy there, and I hope I was there for him. And we never hesitated to give each other advice,” Biden said. “He’d call me in the middle of a campaign and say, ‘What the hell did you say that for? You just screwed up, Joe.’”
They always had each other’s backs, Biden said.
a man wearing a suit and tie: “In order to survive, we have to remember how they lived, not how they died,” Biden said at the service. © POOL New / Reuters “In order to survive, we have to remember how they lived, not how they died,” Biden said at the service. On Why The Country Mourns Together There has been an outpouring of kind words about McCain in recent days from Democrats and Republicans alike. Biden said on Thursday that the senator’s death has been felt so resoundingly because of how McCain’s love of his country gave Americans “confidence.”
“John believed so deeply and passionately in the soul of America. His faith in the core values of this nation made them somehow feel it more genuinely themselves,” Biden said.
“His conviction that we as a country would never walk away from the sacrifices generations of Americans have made to defend liberty and dignity around the world it made Americans proud of themselves. His belief — and it was deep — that Americans can do anything, withstand anything, achieve anything was both unflagging and ultimately reassuring.”
On What McCain Left His Family Biden ended his speech by addressing McCain’s family. He told McCain’s wife, Cindy McCain, that the late senator “owed so much of what he was to you.”
And then Biden spoke directly to McCain’s children.
“You may not have had your father as long as you would have liked, but you got from him everything you need,” Biden said. “To pursue your own dreams. To follow the course of your own spirit. You are a living legacy — not hyperbole. You are a living legacy, living proof of John McCain’s success.”
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Post by Cooter Brown on Aug 31, 2018 6:31:54 GMT -6
I didn't say Dems disrespect vets....I said they use them to their own advantage. The MSM (mostly comprised of liberals) are using this to their advantage. Had Trump never disrespected McCain and wasn't such a douche, the MSM wouldn't be making as big of a deal about it.
I didn't say it was a concern....I was simply being truthful about an observation.
I didn't say I didn't care that Trump "was doing it".....I don't even know how to respond to this. If you think I don't care, you haven't been paying attention to anything in this thread.
For years pubs beat dems over the head with hating vet and military. Then when it suits their needs pub MAKE SHIT UP. Total lies and stick with them. Dem just stick to reality. The point is this, pubs are hypocrites, just as soon as they can use it they will lie or insult a vet, usually when the person lying or insulting, didn't want to go serve. Dem just stick to reality.
WTF did I just read? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/6927057/images/yBQlRCvxlnN0gyGoBPnw.png) ? Not that you had any to beging with...but you have ZERO fuckin credibility...ZERO!!! Dem or Pub...they are all full shit at this point and for you actually type that...WOW. You are certifiably INSANE.
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Post by sooner8th on Aug 31, 2018 7:10:17 GMT -6
For years pubs beat dems over the head with hating vet and military. Then when it suits their needs pub MAKE SHIT UP. Total lies and stick with them. Dem just stick to reality. The point is this, pubs are hypocrites, just as soon as they can use it they will lie or insult a vet, usually when the person lying or insulting, didn't want to go serve. Dem just stick to reality.
WTF did I just read? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/6927057/images/yBQlRCvxlnN0gyGoBPnw.png) ? Not that you had any to beging with...but you have ZERO fuckin credibility...ZERO!!! Dem or Pub...they are all full shit at this point and for you actually type that...WOW. You are certifiably INSANE. Show me where a dem attacked a vet running for office like your party did decorated war heroes John Kerry, Tammy Duckworth, Max Cleland and now John McCain.
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Post by 1tc on Aug 31, 2018 7:21:14 GMT -6
Dem just stick to reality.
WTF did I just read? ![???](//storage.proboards.com/6927057/images/yBQlRCvxlnN0gyGoBPnw.png) ? Not that you had any to beging with...but you have ZERO fuckin credibility...ZERO!!! Dem or Pub...they are all full shit at this point and for you actually type that...WOW. You are certifiably INSANE. Show me where a dem attacked a vet running for office like your party did decorated war heroes John Kerry, Tammy Duckworth, Max Cleland and now John McCain. George W Bush and Dan Rather say hello! If you’re going to move the goalposts, move them out of range. I know better but I’m going to ask anyway. Are you saying that Republicans attack war heroes for being war heroes? In this very thread, you said John McCain was treasonous. This is one of many reasons why you are not listen to. Your positions are built upon sand.
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Post by kcrufnek on Aug 31, 2018 7:49:38 GMT -6
John Kerry is a traitor and a coward.
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Post by Pablo on Aug 31, 2018 11:12:34 GMT -6
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Post by soonernvolved on Aug 31, 2018 12:13:36 GMT -6
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Post by soonernvolved on Aug 31, 2018 12:20:10 GMT -6
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